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2Bobs—with David C. Baker and Blair Enns

2Bobs—with David C. Baker and Blair Enns

By: David C. Baker and Blair Enns
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Conversations on the art of creative entrepreneurship with David C. Baker and Blair Enns Economics Leadership Management Management & Leadership
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  • Why Clients Come, Stay, and Leave

    Why Clients Come, Stay, and Leave
    Apr 8 2026

    David sees a lot of creative agencies making bad assumptions about their client relationships by not making the distinction between the reasons why clients come to them in the first place, why they choose to continue working with them as time passes, and then why they ultimately move on.

    LINKS

    "Distinguishing Between Why Clients Come, Stay, and Leave" by David C. Baker for punctuation.com

    "The Waterfall of Differentiation" 2Bobs episode
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    20 mins
  • Is AI Going to Kill Labor-based Pricing?

    Is AI Going to Kill Labor-based Pricing?
    Mar 25 2026

    Blair is stunned that he still encounters so many advisory businesses like ad agencies, consulting firms, legal and accounting practices — large and small — that are still selling time. So he and David discuss what new revenue models should look like as we all adapt to how AI is changing our businesses.

    Links

    "Time's Up, Babycakes" by Blair Enns for winwithoutpitching.com

    Time's Up!: The Subscription Business Model for Professional Firms by Paul Dunn and Ronald J. Baker

    The Automatic Customer: Creating a Subscription Business in Any Industry by John Warrillow

    The Forever Transaction by Robbie Kellman Baxter

    Subscribed: Why the Subscription Model Will Be Your Company's Future – and What to Do About It by Tien Tzuo and Gabe Weisert
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    28 mins
  • If I Were Starting a New Firm

    If I Were Starting a New Firm
    Mar 11 2026

    Blair interviews David about a recent article he's been receiving a lot of feedback on, in which he lists all of the things he would try to incorporate into a brand new creative agency, based on what he's seen and learned from working with thousands of firms over the years.

    Links

    "If I Started A New Firm, Now" by David C. Baker for punctuation.com
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    35 mins
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Entrepreneurs, creatives, problem solvers. Both Blair and David have written multiple books. a few of which I own, and they are very insightful. Their podcast covers many topics that they both touch on in their books and explore many creative, expert problems as business owners. Well worth listening to.

Two creative, professionals worth listening to

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This podcast has great business insights from the hosts’ years of experience with the fiddle caddie of the business world. I love the little stories they tell and the lessons they share from them. I’d recommend this podcast to anyone who wants to learn more about the realities of service businesses, and especially to “enginerds” like myself.

Great insights, fun stories

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