In this episode of The AP Leadership Podcast, host Al Pilong sits down with Ed Ness, President & CEO of Munson Healthcare, for a thoughtful and personal conversation on leadership, authenticity, and accountability.

Al and Ed reflect on their years working together and explore what it takes to lead effectively over time — especially in complex, high-pressure environments like healthcare and mission-driven organizations.

They discuss:

• Why authentic leadership matters more than adopting a leadership “style”

• How leaders can balance empathy with accountability

• The importance of culture fit for long-term leadership success

• Why holding people accountable is one of the hardest — and most important — responsibilities of leadership

• How leaders can empower others without needing to be the smartest person in the room

The conversation also takes a fun and practical turn as they explore leadership lessons from Ted Lasso, including curiosity over judgment, humility without weakness, and empowering people to grow into their potential.

This episode is for leaders who want to lead with integrity, build strong cultures, and develop people in a way that creates lasting impact.

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