Episodes

  • Artists of the Way Book Club: Out of the Silent Planet by C.S. Lewis Part 1
    May 1 2026

    In this episode Jon and Nate give you a special look at the Artists of the Way Book Club! Check out their initial thoughts on Out of the Silent Planet by C.S. Lewis, and join the discussion on Patreon, and hear the rest of our book club episodes for only $3-$5 a month!

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    40 mins
  • How Was Art Used in the Medieval Church with John Taylor
    Apr 25 2026

    John Taylor is an associate pastor with Kings Church on Walker, MI, and has a Masters in Theology from Dallas Theological Seminary. Together he and Jon discuss how art was used in the medieval church for instruction and worship, how things changed with the reformation, and how we can reclaim some of those virtues today.

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    1 hr and 10 mins
  • A Place for Comedy in the Church?
    Apr 17 2026

    In this episode Jon and Nate discuss the role of comedy for Christians, what it's benefits are, and examine the question, is comedy art? Or is it something else entirely?

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    1 hr and 15 mins
  • Embodied Art, Collaboration, and Writing Musicals, with Aaron Alsmeyer
    Apr 10 2026

    In this episode Jon and Nate discuss the process of writing and producing original musicals with Aaron Alsmeyer, looking especially at his most recent musical Leviathan, based on the story of St. George and the Dragon.

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    51 mins
  • Does Tragedy Belong in Christian Art?
    Apr 3 2026

    In this episode Jon and Nate debate the question, does tragedy belong in Christian art? They weigh what good we may get from a story with such darkness, or if the risks and results of such things aren't worth it for a follower of Christ.

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    1 hr and 28 mins
  • Self-Publishing and Collaboration in Writing with Audrey DeBoer
    Mar 28 2026

    In this episode Jon speaks with Audrey DeBoer about the process of writing and publishing her debut novel. She shares about the importance of collaborating with a team to help her get the book where she wanted it to be, and what she's been learning about her faith through the process of writing.

    Find out more about Audrey at her website https://audreyddeboer.com/

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    56 mins
  • Your Art in the Kingdom of God
    Mar 14 2026

    In this episode Jon and Nate chat about art's role in the kingdom of heaven, and how your creativity is a divine gift from God, and something he rejoices in! They also chat about Marvel's Wonder Man, Jon's recent non-fiction theology kick, and Jon's least favorite letter of the alphabet!

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    1 hr and 4 mins
  • Supporting Other Artists with Shaye Wilson and Ellie Knobloch
    Feb 27 2026

    In this episode Jon and Nate invite their wives Shaye and Ellie onto the podcast! They dive deep into what it means to support each other in the artistic journey. From theater to novel writing, Jon, Nate, Shaye, and Ellie explore how to lift each other up creatively.

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    1 hr and 7 mins