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Barbecuing Sacred Cows

Barbecuing Sacred Cows

By: Jason Williams & Gerrel Jones
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Barbecuing Sacred Cows puts the “sacred cows” on the grill; and we’re not apologizing for the smoke. This isn’t clickbait outrage; it’s a podcast for truth-seekers tired of pretending things make sense when they don’t. We’re not ivory-tower commentators. We’re boots-on-the-ground practitioners; philosophers in the streets; bringing real stories, real history, and real questions. Expect bold clarity, charitable pushback, and conversations that challenge assumptions and ignite critical thinking.Jason Williams & Gerrel Jones Christianity Ministry & Evangelism Spirituality
Episodes
  • The Social Gospel LIE
    Mar 19 2026

    The social gospel or spiritual gospel? We dive into some history, some passages and topics around the idea of the gospel being limited to either social or spiritual good news.

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    59 mins
  • Barbecuing Sacred Cows Civic Engagement & Community Power 2
    Mar 19 2026

    Traditionally most people who could be invested in their community well being, sit on their hands but complain about outcomes. When is this going to stop?

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    45 mins
  • A White Supremacist Helped Me Leave Prison… Here’s Why
    Mar 5 2026

    Most people were taught a gospel that sounds instant: say a prayer, get “new,” and the struggle disappears. But what happens when you’re still battling addiction, shame, sexual brokenness, anger, or the same patterns… after the altar call? In this episode of Barbecuing Sacred Cows, Jason Williams and Gerrel Jones go straight at the sacred cows of modern Christianity and ask why the church often talks about salvation but avoids restoration. If the Gospel is supposed to heal people, why do so many believers stay stuck—and why do church systems often reject the very people who need renewal the most? This conversation reframes repentance as a mindset shift, discipleship as spiritual parenting, and restoration as something that happens through relationships, not performance. You’ll hear real stories about prison mentorship, unlikely reconciliation across racism, church rejection after moral failure, and why Jesus built community like a family—Father, Son, brothers and sisters—rather than an institution obsessed with rules. If you’re deconstructing church culture but still chasing Jesus, this will help you rebuild your faith around love, renewal, and real transformation.

    You’ll learn why restoration is a core Gospel theme and how Jesus modeled discipleship as a long journey, not a moment. You’ll hear how love breaks down the dividing wall of hostility in real life, even between enemies, and why opposition can become your greatest opportunity to practice the Kingdom. You’ll also discover how religious systems drift into rules-and-rituals Christianity that produces confusion, shame, and “fatherless” believers who were converted but never mentored. Finally, you’ll get a framework for examining your faith honestly—without walking away from people mid-story—and how to stop labeling others while God is still writing their ending.

    00:00 Intro
    00:46 “Why am I still struggling?” (the altar-call problem)
    01:55 Restoration happens in relationships (family model)
    05:00 Matthew + Simon the Zealot (enemies on one team)
    06:30 Prison story: mentoring over altar calls
    07:45 White supremacist becomes a disciple
    10:55 Vision + “You’re the guy” moment
    12:30 Parole denials, then breakthrough
    14:30 Moving into his home (Good Samaritan in real life)
    17:10 Good Samaritan explained with modern parallels
    18:05 Tithing debate vs weightier matters (justice + mercy)
    19:10 How church became system-centered (culture + history)
    25:00 Personal collapse, rejection, and restoration
    28:05 A white cop’s relentless love (changed everything)
    33:20 Examine yourself (faith that has fruit)
    34:35 Pastors as “baby daddies” (discipleship as parenting)
    37:45 Where the money could go (community transformation)
    39:10 Final takeaway: love + don’t judge mid-story
    41:10 Outro

    #Restoration #Christianity #Discipleship #ChurchCulture #Gospel


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    42 mins
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