• The Ancient Women Mystics Your Bible Never Told You About w/ Dr. Joan Taylor
    Mar 30 2026

    Buried in the writings of a first-century Jewish philosopher is a description of a community that most Christians have never heard of. A group of men and women living on the outskirts of Alexandria, Egypt who abandoned everything, their wealth, their status, their former lives, to pursue one thing: a vision of God's light. They were called the Therapeutae. And the women among them, known as the Therapeutrides, were not silent observers. They were philosophers. They were mystics. They were equal participants in the spiritual life. For centuries, their story has been overlooked, misunderstood, and even claimed by early Christian writers as their own. Then Dr. Joan Taylor, one of the most respected scholars in the world, traveled to Egypt and found the place where they lived.

    Dr. Joan Taylor is Professor Emerita of Christian Origins and Second Temple Judaism at King's College London, a Fulbright scholar, former Visiting Lecturer at Harvard Divinity School, and the author of what has been called the best commentary ever written on Philo's account of this community. In this episode, she takes us inside the world of the Therapeutae, reveals the political firestorm in Alexandria that forced Philo to write about them, and exposes the powerful role of women that history tried to bury. This is one of those conversations that will change the way you read your Bible.

    In this episode you will learn:

    • What Jewish life looked like in first-century Alexandria, one of the most important and overlooked cities in the biblical world
    • Who Philo of Alexandria was and why his testimony is so significant for understanding Judaism and early Christianity
    • The brutal conflict between Jews and Greeks in Alexandria and how it shaped everything Philo wrote about the Therapeutae
    • Who the Therapeutae actually were and what their radical daily life of contemplation, fasting, and Scripture study looked like
    • Why the Therapeutae are completely distinct from the Essenes and the Dead Sea Scrolls community
    • The mystical spiritual practices that drove this community, including trance-like experiences of divine light
    • The Therapeutrides: the women in this community who were educated philosophers and full participants in the spiritual life
    • How the existence of these women should reshape the way we read New Testament passages about women in the early church
    • Dr. Taylor's trip to Egypt where she identified the actual location of this community near Lake Mareotis
    • What happened when early Christianity collided with the Therapeutae in Alexandria

    Check out Dr. Taylor's books: Women Remembered: Jesus' Female Disciples - https://a.co/d/0bJltOiA

    Jewish Women Philosophers of First-Century Alexandria: Philo's 'Therapeutae' Reconsidered - https://a.co/d/0hXKfwoS

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    42 mins
  • The Dead Sea Scrolls Reveal What "Messiah" Really Meant w/ Dr. John J. Collins
    Mar 23 2026

    Imagine hearing that the Messiah had arrived... and then finding out he was executed by Rome.

    For first-century Jews, this wasn't just disappointing. It was disconfirming evidence. It made zero sense.

    They were waiting for a warrior king who would smash the heads of Israel's enemies and restore David's throne.

    Instead, they got a crucified rabbi from Nazareth.

    So how did Christianity even get off the ground?

    Dr. John J. Collins, one of the world's leading scholars on apocalyptic Judaism and the Dead Sea Scrolls, walks us through what ancient Jews ACTUALLY expected from their Messiah. And spoiler alert: it wasn't anything close to what Jesus did.

    We're talking:

    ✅ Why the Dead Sea Scrolls community expected TWO Messiahs, not one
    ✅ How apocalyptic communities like Qumran thought angels would fight alongside them against Rome (they didn't)

    ✅ What "Son of Man" actually meant before the Gospels

    ✅ Why early Christians had to completely reimagine messianic expectations after the crucifixion

    This isn't your Sunday school version of ancient Judaism.

    This is what the scholars who study the original texts actually know.

    If you've ever wondered why most Jews didn't accept Jesus as Messiah... this episode will make it crystal clear.

    📖 Grab Dr. Collins' book The Apocalyptic Imagination: An Introduction to Jewish Apocalyptic Literature: https://a.co/d/0brOVlLW

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    42 mins
  • Paul Wasn't Writing About You w/ Dr. Beverly Gaventa
    Mar 16 2026

    She's taught at Princeton for over two decades. She served as president of the largest professional organization of biblical scholars on the planet. The British Academy awarded her the Burkitt Medal for Biblical Studies, an honor rarely given to American scholars. She has spent over 40 years studying the Apostle Paul. And after all of that, Dr. Beverly Gaventa says most of us are reading Paul completely wrong.

    In this episode, Dr. Gaventa blows the doors off the way most Christians have been taught to read Paul's letters. The Romans Road? Too small. Individual salvation? That's only the beginning. She reveals that Paul was describing something massive: God's intrusion into a broken cosmos to reclaim all of creation from the powers of sin and death. She makes a stunning case for Phoebe as the first interpreter of Romans. She unpacks why Paul described himself as a mother in labor. She tackles Romans 9-11 and the dangerous legacy of supersessionism head on. And she drops a revelation about worship hidden in Romans that she didn't see coming even after four decades of study. This one will rearrange the way you read your Bible.

    In this episode you will learn:

    • Why Paul's letters weren't written to you personally and what that changes about how we read them
    • What "apocalyptic" actually means and why it has nothing to do with the end times or the rapture
    • How the gospel isn't just about individual salvation but about God reclaiming entire people groups and all of creation
    • Why Dr. Gaventa moved away from the word "invasion" and now uses "intrusion" to describe God's action in the world
    • What Paul means by "powers," "principalities," and "Sin" with a capital S
    • The stunning case for Phoebe as the first interpreter of Romans and why a woman was entrusted with Paul's most important letter
    • Why Paul described himself using maternal imagery like a nursing mother and a woman in labor
    • How Romans 9-11 actually defends God's faithfulness to Israel rather than replacing them
    • The unexpected discovery about worship that Dr. Gaventa made after decades of studying Romans
    • Dr. Gaventa's one piece of advice that will transform how you engage the New Testament

    📚 Check out Dr. Gaventa's work: Romans: A Commentary (New Testament Library, 2024) - https://a.co/d/fO8KIcN

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    46 mins
  • Why You're Reading the Gospels Wrong w/ Dr. Jeannine Brown
    Mar 9 2026

    What if the way you've been reading Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John your entire life has caused you to miss the point? Dr. Jeannine Brown, David Price Professor of Biblical and Theological Foundations at Bethel Seminary and member of the NIV Committee on Bible Translation, joins the show to challenge everything you thought you knew about studying the Gospels. After 25+ years training pastors and translating Scripture, Dr. Brown reveals why reading the Gospels in fragments robs us of the themes, the character development, and the narrative power the Gospel writers intended us to experience.

    This conversation will transform how you prepare sermons, lead Bible studies, and engage Scripture personally. Dr. Brown walks us through plot and theme analysis, shows how the disciples function as characters in Matthew's narrative, unpacks the stunning intertextual connection between Jesus's "77 times" forgiveness teaching and the revenge cycle of Lamech in Genesis 4, and even pulls back the curtain on how narrative context shapes NIV translation decisions. If you've ever felt like you were missing something when you opened the Gospels, this episode is for you.

    In this episode you will learn:

    -The most common mistake people make when reading the Gospels and how to fix it
    -How the early church actually experienced these texts (hint: they didn't stop after eight verses)
    -Why ancient biographies were arranged by theme, not just chronology, and what that means for interpretation
    -How to identify and trace themes across an entire Gospel like hospitality in Luke
    -The way Matthew uses the disciples as "little faith" characters to shape our understanding of Jesus
    -A powerful intertextual connection between Matthew 18 and Genesis 4 that reframes forgiveness
    -How narrative thinking should change your sermon preparation on passages like the feeding of the 5,000
    -Why each Gospel tells the story of Jesus with distinctive emphasis and how to appreciate that
    -How narrative context influenced the NIV's translation of Matthew 8:7 as a question
    -What the "Son of Man coming" language from Daniel 7 actually means across Matthew's Gospel

    Connect with Dr. Jeannine Brown:

    Bethel Seminary Faculty Page


    Her Books on Amazon:

    The Gospels as Stories
    Scripture as Communication
    Philippians (Tyndale Commentary)

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    47 mins
  • What Christians Don't Know About How Jesus Used the Bible w/ Dr. Bruce Chilton
    Mar 2 2026

    What if everything you thought you knew about how Jesus read the Bible was incomplete? In this eye-opening conversation, we sit down with Dr. Bruce Chilton, the Bernard Iddings Bell Professor of Religion at Bard College and the first scholar to write a critical commentary on the Aramaic Isaiah Targum. Dr. Chilton reveals a hidden world that most Christians have never encountered—the Aramaic Targums, the interpretive paraphrases of Scripture that Jesus actually heard and used in first-century synagogues. These weren't word-for-word translations; they were dynamic, expansive interpretations that shaped how Jesus understood and taught about God's kingdom, the suffering servant, and the very nature of Scripture itself.

    This conversation will completely reframe how you read both the Old Testament and the Gospels. Dr. Chilton walks us through specific examples where Jesus quotes Targumic readings, explains why the religious leaders opposed him so fiercely, and shows how understanding this tradition unlocks passages that have puzzled Christians for centuries. From the vineyard parable to Jesus' Nazareth sermon, from his debates with Pharisees to Paul's bilingual mastery, you'll discover that the Bible Jesus knew was far more dynamic and alive than the static text many of us assume. This is scholarly depth made accessible, and it will change the way you engage with Scripture forever.

    In this episode you will learn:

    - What Targums are and why they've remained hidden from most Christians for centuries
    - How first-century synagogues functioned and what Jesus would have actually heard when Scripture was read
    - Why Jesus' understanding of "the Kingdom of God" came directly from Targumic theology, not from thin air
    - How to distinguish between original Hebrew text and interpretive Targumic expansions
    - Specific examples where Jesus quotes Targumic readings that completely change how we understand Gospel passages
    - Why the Isaiah Targum interprets the "suffering servant" differently than most Christians expect
    - How Jesus' debates with Pharisees were actually insider arguments over Targumic interpretations
    - What's really happening in Jesus' Nazareth sermon when he reads from Isaiah and claims fulfillment
    - Why Jesus spoke in parables and how the Targum reveals his true motivation
    - How the vineyard parable in Mark 12 directly connects to the Isaiah Targum's teaching about the temple

    Dr. Bruce Chilton's Books:

    A Galilean Rabbi and His Bible
    Targums and Rabbinic Literature (Zondervan)
    Rabbi Jesus: An Intimate Biography

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    42 mins
  • Archaeology Proves the Gospels Are Telling the Truth w/ Dr. Craig Evans
    Feb 23 2026

    Skeptics said synagogues didn't exist in Galilee during Jesus' lifetime. They were wrong. They said crucified victims were never buried. They were wrong. They said the Gospel writers invented details about first-century Palestine. Wrong again.

    Dr. Craig Evans, one of the world's leading scholars on the historical Jesus and New Testament archaeology, has spent decades connecting physical discoveries to the Gospel narratives. He's authored over 70 books, founded the Dead Sea Scrolls Institute, lectured at Cambridge, Oxford, and Yale, and appeared on BBC, the History Channel, Discovery Channel, and National Geographic. In this episode, he walks us through the discoveries that secular Israeli archaeologists rely on the Gospels as their primary sources, why skeptical theories collapse under the weight of evidence, and how the skeletal remains of a crucified man confirm that Jesus would have been buried exactly as the Gospels describe. This conversation will transform how you read the New Testament.

    In this episode, you will learn:

    • Why Israeli archaeologists, even non-believing ones, use Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, and Acts as their most reliable sources
    • The discovery of first-century synagogues at Magdala and what they reveal about Jesus' ministry
    • What the Theodotus Inscription proves about synagogues existing in Jerusalem before 70 AD
    • How the Pilate Stone and Caiaphas Ossuary confirm key figures from the Passion narratives
    • Why the Gospel writers showed remarkable restraint and integrity in recording only what Jesus actually said
    • The archaeological evidence that crucified victims in Jewish Palestine were in fact buried
    • How the skeletal remains of Yehohanan, a crucified man with a nail still in his heel, validates Gospel burial accounts
    • Why Joseph of Arimathea's burial of Jesus is historically plausible and fits Jewish law perfectly
    • The stunning continuity of village memory that preserved the location of Jesus' tomb for centuries

    Check out Dr. Craig Evans' work:

    • Website: https://www.craigaevans.com
    • Jesus and His World: The Archaeological Evidence
    • Fabricating Jesus: How Modern Scholars Distort the Gospels
    • The Bible Seminary: https://www.thebibleseminary.edu

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    45 mins
  • The Female Apostles History Forgot: How Women Actually Led the Early Church w/ Dr. Lynn Cohick
    Feb 16 2026

    What if the women of the early church weren't silent observers but powerful leaders, patrons, and apostles whose stories have been hidden for 2,000 years? In this groundbreaking episode, Dr. Lynn Cohick, Distinguished Professor of New Testament at Houston Christian University and author of "Women in the World of the Earliest Christians," reveals how archaeological evidence, ancient inscriptions, and business documents completely transform our understanding of women's roles in early Christianity. From Lydia's influential house church to Phoebe's role as Paul's patron, from Mary Magdalene's true identity as a businesswoman to Junia's recognition as an apostle, Dr. Cohick exposes how prescriptive ideals from ancient philosophers masked the descriptive reality of women's actual lives and leadership.

    Dr. Cohick's decades of research illuminate how women navigated complex social structures through informal power networks, benefaction systems, and household authority. She explains how the house church model created unexpected leadership opportunities, how women maintained financial independence through dowries and personal property, and why understanding the actual social context of the first century radically changes how we interpret Paul's controversial passages about women. This conversation reveals how recovering these hidden stories isn't just about correcting history - it's about unleashing gospel transformation in our churches today.

    In this episode you will learn:

    • How women served as patrons and benefactors who financially supported Paul's ministry and the early church
    • Why Mary Magdalene was likely a successful businesswoman, not a prostitute, and how this misidentification happened
    • How the house church model gave women authority and leadership roles we often overlook
    • What archaeological evidence like tombstones and inscriptions reveal about women serving as deacons and synagogue leaders
    • How understanding patronage and reciprocity systems explains Phoebe's powerful role as Paul's prostatis
    • Why Paul's "women be silent" passages make sense when understood in their specific chaotic contexts
    • How Jewish women and God-fearers navigated between synagogue and church in joining the Jesus movement
    • What Junia's story tells us about women being recognized as apostles in the early church
    • How women's financial independence through dowries and property ownership gave them unexpected agency
    • Why recognizing women's informal influence patterns transforms how we read the New Testament today

    Connect with Dr. Lynn Cohick:

    • Center for Women in Leadership: leadershipwithoutapology.org
    • Houston Christian University: hc.edu
    • Book: "Women in the World of the Earliest Christians: Illuminating Ancient Ways of Life"

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    47 mins
  • From Oxford to TikTok: The Scholar Fighting Biblical Misinformation w/ Dan McClellan
    Feb 9 2026

    What happens when a biblical scholar with degrees from Oxford and Exeter decides to take on misinformation where it lives... on TikTok? Dr. Dan McClellan has built a following of nearly one million people by doing something radical: telling the truth about what the Bible actually says. In this conversation, Dr. McClellan takes us on his journey from serving as an LDS missionary in Uruguay, to getting kicked out of college, to earning his PhD and becoming one of the most recognized voices in public biblical scholarship. His motto is "data over dogma," and he's not afraid to challenge the assumptions that have shaped how Christians read Scripture for centuries.

    This episode goes deep. We explore Dr. McClellan's argument that "the Bible doesn't say anything" on its own, and why that statement isn't an attack on faith but an invitation to read more honestly. We dig into what the Bible actually says about same-sex relationships (hint: the ancient world had no concept of sexual orientation), and we unpack what Scripture really teaches about hell and eternal punishment. If you've ever been told "the Bible clearly says" something and felt like there had to be more to the story, this conversation is for you.

    In this episode you will learn:

    - Why Dr. McClellan says "the Bible doesn't say anything" and what that means for how we interpret Scripture
    - The difference between how scholars study the Bible and how it's taught in most churches
    - What the concept of "univocality" is and why it's the foundation of most biblical misinformation
    - What Leviticus and the New Testament actually say about same-sex intercourse in their ancient context
    - Why the ancient world had no concept of homosexuality as a sexual orientation
    - The three different views of hell found in the New Testament (annihilation, temporary punishment, eternal torment)
    - Why eternal conscious torment became the dominant view and what the Bible actually indicates
    - How Dr. McClellan balances scholarship and faith without needing to "deconstruct"

    Connect with Dr. Dan McClellan:
    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@maklelan
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/maklelan
    Podcast: Data Over Dogma- https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/data-over-dogma/id1681418502
    Book: The Bible Says So: What We Get Right (and Wrong) About Scripture's Most Controversial Issues — https://a.co/d/fJuNxi0
    Website and Online Classes: maklelan.org
    Patreon: patreon.com/maklelan

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    54 mins