Interview 32: Dr. Ross Greene and Ruth Eadie
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In this episode of If I Were the Minister for Education, I explore how behaviour support in Irish primary schools has shifted from corporal punishment to rewards and consequences, and now toward restorative practice, nurture spaces, and Collaborative & Proactive Solutions (CPS). I’m joined by Dr. Ross Greene, founder of Lives in the Balance and author of The Explosive Child, Lost at School, and The Kids Who Aren’t OK, and by Ruth Edie, principal in Dublin 18 and a certified CPS trainer. We discuss CPS’s focus on solving the unsolved problems behind concerning behaviour through proactive, collaborative Plan B conversations, including the ASEP process and practical “drilling” strategies. We also compare CPS with restorative practice, address concerns about time and “letting kids off,” and share resources (livesinthebalance.org/ireland). I dedicate the episode to my late deputy principal Emer and HSE psychologist Toby.
00:00 Welcome and Overview
00:39 Behavior Shifts in Schools
01:59 Discovering CPS
03:10 Dedication and Intro
03:48 Meet Ross and Ruth
05:18 Ross Green Background
06:26 Ruth Eadie Journey
10:05 What Is CPS
13:14 ASEP and Unsolved Problems
15:06 Plan B Conversation
19:47 Drilling Strategies
21:09 When CPS Starts
22:49 Handling I Don’t Know
24:33 Ireland Context Setup
25:17 Piloting CPS in Ireland
25:50 Tribute to Toby and Emer
27:12 Restorative Practice vs CPS
29:16 What CPS Adds for Teachers
30:18 Finding Time for CPS
32:48 Common Pushback and Myths
35:56 Where to Learn CPS
38:05 Minister for a Day
41:48 Final Resources and Farewell
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