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Law and Chaos

By: Liz Dye
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Ignorance of the law is no excuse! That's true for a traffic stop, and it's true if you want to participate in whatever's left of American democracy. If the events since the 2016 election taught us anything, it's that tuning out is not an option. Legal journalists Liz Dye and Andrew Torrez break down the week's most important courtroom stories, so you can keep on top of this crazy news cycle. Whether it's Texas giving two middle fingers to the Supreme Court, or Donald Trump in all the courts at once, we've got you covered.© 2024 Political Science Politics & Government
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  • Ep 217 — Trump Admin Finds New Ways To Be Racist In Birthright Citizenship Case

    Ep 217 — Trump Admin Finds New Ways To Be Racist In Birthright Citizenship Case
    Mar 31 2026
    The House Judiciary Committee wants to change the US Attorney statute to say what Attorney General Bondi claimed it did in court. This would involve the Senate voluntarily surrendering their power to vote on nominees, so … lotsa luck. Back in New Jersey, prosecutors say they’ll seek superseding indictments in cases with Alina Habba’s name on them, to remove the stink of illegitimacy.The DOJ has quietly settled a trollsuit filed by red states and rightwing trolls, including Robert Kennedy, alleging social media censorship by the Biden administration. The Supreme Court already dropkicked this case once, so the parties agreed to simply declare victory and go home.And Sam Bankman-Fried finds new ways to piss off judges and be sooooo weird, this time with help from his mom.MAIN SHOW:The DOJ settled a bogus lawsuit filed by former national security advisor Mike Flynn. His malicious prosecution claims had already been tossed by a federal judge, but she let him amend his complaint again, and by then Trump was back in the White House. Is this a new template for MAGA criminals to back the truck up to the Treasury and start filling it with taxpayer cash? The January 6 defendants sure seem to think so! We’ll compare a newly filed case by rioters with a suit filed by pardoned Proud Boys.And we’ve got a deep dive into the birthright citizenship case Trump v. Barbara, which will be argued at the Supreme Court this Wednesday.Kennedy v. Bidenhttps://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67089647/kennedy-v-biden/?order_by=descMissouri v. Bidenhttps://www.courtlistener.com/docket/63290154/missouri-v-biden/?order_by=descUS v. Bankman-Friedhttps://www.courtlistener.com/docket/66631292/united-states-v-bankman-friedTarrio v. US [Proud Boys Bivens Suit]https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/70474277/tarrio-v-united-states-of-americaSullivan v. US [J6ers FTCA Suit]https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/73101995/sullivan-v-united-states/Flynn v. US [Flynn FTCA]https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/66930673/flynn-v-united-statesDred Scott v. Sandford, 60 US 393 (1857)https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=3231372247892780026US v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 US 649 (1898)https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=3381955771263111765Indian Citizenship Act of 1924https://www.archives.gov/files/historical-docs/doc-content/images/indian-citizenship-act-1924.pdfIndian Law Scholars’ Amicus Brief [via SCOTUS]https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/25/25-365/399370/20260226125541217_Barbara%20Amicus%20Brief.pdfThe Nationality Act of 1940 [student Note]https://www.jstor.org/stable/1335062Trump v. Barbarahttps://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/25-365.htmlShow Links:https://www.lawandchaospod.com/BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPodThreads: @LawAndChaosPodTwitter: @LawAndChaosPodSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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  • Ep 216 — Zuck and Musk Get Pantsed In Court … Twice

    Ep 216 — Zuck and Musk Get Pantsed In Court … Twice
    Mar 27 2026
    Anthropic got its injunction against the Department of Defense and Pete Hegseth’s designation of the company as a supply chain risk.Elon Musk lost a shareholder class action suit in California over sh*tposts he made when he was trying to get out of buying Twitter. He demands a new trial because the jury made a 420 joke, and everyone knows that only he is allowed to do that. Meanwhile in Texas, X Corp lost a lawsuit against a bunch of Fortune 500 companies for daring to take their business elsewhereTrump housing goon Bill Pulte is back on his BS, trying again to get someone to indict New York Attorney General Letitia James, this time for insurance fraud.Florida Attorney General James Uthmeier is threatening NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell that there will be hell to pay if he doesn’t ditch the Rooney Rule.And Minnesota law enforcement and prosecutors sued the Departments of Justice and Homeland Security for blockading the evidence in the shootings of Renee Good, Julio Cesar Sosa-Celis, and Alex Pretti.MAIN SHOW:The Eighth Circuit joins the Fifth in endorsing ICE’s fakakta interpretation of the mandatory detention statute. Facebook/Meta/Zuckerberg loses in two courts — just like Elon/Twitter! In New Mexico, a jury ordered the company to pay $375 million in lawsuit brought by the state over unfair trade practices. And a jury in California awarded $6 million to a woman who became addicted to social media as a little girl and suffered serious emotional consequences.SUBSCRIBERS:For seven months, the DOJ told a court that ICE had revised its policy on arrests inside courthouses, including immigration courts. Only … they hadn’t. Now a federal judge in New York is on the warpath, and DOJ is trying to make sure that DHS takes the fall.Trump housing chief seeks new DOJ probe of New York AG Letitia Jameshttps://www.ms.now/news/trump-housing-chief-doj-new-york-letitia-james-pulteAnthropic Injunctionhttps://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.465515/gov.uscourts.cand.465515.134.0.pdfX Corp v. World Federation of Advertisershttps://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69017972/x-corp-v-world-federation-of-advertisers/ Pampena v Muskhttps://www.courtlistener.com/docket/65412803/giuseppe-pampena-v-elon-rmuskFlorida AG Uthmeier tells NFL to end diversity-promoting ‘Rooney Rule’https://www.orlandosentinel.com/2026/03/26/florida-ag-uthmeier-tells-nfl-to-end-diversity-promoting-rooney-rule/Minnesota v. DOJhttps://www.courtlistener.com/docket/72590076/state-of-minnesota-v-us-department-of-justice/African Communities Together v. Lyonshttps://www.courtlistener.com/docket/70993525/african-communities-together-v-lyonsAvila v. ICE (8th Cir. mandatory detention) [docket via CourtListener]https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca8.113186/gov.uscourts.ca8.113186.00805482414.3.pdfState of New Mexico v. Meta (NM state investigation of Facebook)https://nmag.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/2023-12-05-NM-v.-Meta-et-al.-COMPLAINT-REDACTED.pdfSmith v. TikTok (CA state lawsuit against social media addiction)https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/social-media-lawsuits-kgm-motion-denied.pdfShow Links:https://www.lawandchaospod.com/BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPodThreads: @LawAndChaosPodTwitter: @LawAndChaosPodSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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  • Ep 215 — DOJ, Why Are You Like This?

    Ep 215 — DOJ, Why Are You Like This?
    Mar 24 2026
    Lots of legal news out of US Agency for Global Media, the parent agency for Voice of America. Judge Royce Lamberth ruled that Kari Lake was never legally appointed CEO of USAGM, and thus her orders shutting the sub-agencies down and firing all the employees were null and void. The government appealed, but in the sloppiest way possible. Now the agency is getting sued again for violating the firewall protecting journalistic independence, forcing the networks to air AI slop praising Trump. But Kari Lake has an answer for that, and it is to call the judge a fatso.Judges in the District of New Jersey have appointed longtime prosecutor Robert Frazer as US Attorney. And so far, Attorney General Bondi hasn’t fired him.Judge Roy Altman, a Trump appointee, seems disinclined to put an end to Trump’s trollsuits right out of the gate. He’s allowing the case against the BBC to proceed to discovery. And he dismissed the complaint against Capital One for tortious debanking, but allowed Trump 90 days to conduct discovery and refile.MAIN SHOW:We’ve got an update on Kilmar Abrego Garcia. The government says it has to send him to Liberia (where he does not agree to go) instead of Costa Rica (where he does agree to go) because Secretary Marco Rubio spent a lot of time negotiating with Liberia to take Abrego, and it would be so embarrassing not to send him there.And we’ll break down the Supreme Court’s recent decision in Olivier v. City of Brandon, a case involving a truly obnoxious street preacher that implicates your right to sue the government.SUBSCRIBER BONUS: The Trump administration is suing Harvard under Title VI, claiming that the school failed to protect Jewish students and must forfeit billions.Widakuswara v. Lake I [DC Circuit]https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/72521013/patsy-widakuswara-v-kari-lake/Widakuswara v. Lake [Trial Court]https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69846584/widakuswara-v-lakeWidakuswara v. Lake II [DC Circuit]https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/72528662/widakuswara-v-lake/District New Jersey Appointment Orderhttps://www.njd.uscourts.gov/sites/njd/files/STANDINGORDER2026-03.pdfTrump Suit Against Capital One Dismissed But Can Be Refiledhttps://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-suit-against-capital-one-200454780.html Trump v. BBChttps://www.courtlistener.com/docket/72040010/trump-v-british-broadcasting-corporationTrump v. Capital Onehttps://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69853458/the-donald-j-trump-revocable-trust-v-capital-one-naUS v. Harvardhttps://www.courtlistener.com/docket/72520538/unites-states-of-america-v-harvard-university-fellows-and-president/Abrego Garcia v. Noem (habeas petition) [docket via CourtListener]https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/71191591/abrego-garcia-v-noem/?order_by=descZadvydas v. Davis, 533 U.S. 678 (2001)https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=16478079160883986502Kennedy v. Bremerton School Dist., 597 U.S. _____ (2022)https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21-418_i425.pdfOlivier v. City of Brandon [US Supreme Court]https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/25pdf/24-993_10n2.pdfOlivier v. City of Brandon (Appendix containing ordinance) [US Supreme Court]https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/24/24-993/352124/20250314105732247_Olivier%20Pet.%20App.pdfShow Links:https://www.lawandchaospod.com/BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPodThreads: @LawAndChaosPodTwitter: @LawAndChaosPodSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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    1 hr and 10 mins
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I follow several lawyers and podcasts because I enjoy hearing about crazy court cases, long suffering judges and constitutional law.

But recently I've made a point of listening to Law and Chaos because I want to keep an ear on the current POTUS and his administration.. and I believe that Andrew and Liz do an amazing job with that... accompanied by the sharp wit and sarcasm that can only be obtained from years of experience with the law (and with morons)

I (almost) always feel better after listening because most of the judges in the US are at least trying to reinstate the rule of law, which Congress apparently no longer cares about.

IANAL but I love listening to them.

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So far the podcast has been a great breakdown of what to expect, and where to focus your attention on upcoming stories where politics intersects with the law. As a layperson, it's empowering to know which stories have real legal substance and which don't, and of course, Liz is covering the stories that matter most.

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