As early deal-by-deal pioneers, Edwin Burke and Chris Eichmann of Pillsman Partners have have completed 7 platform investments and 23 add-on acquisitions since their founding in 2012. Unlike many PE executives who embrace operations depth as a differentiator, Pillsman's "suits & jeans" model focuses on value creation through partnership, team building, capital access, and strategy.

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Edwin Burke | LinkedIn
Chris Eichmann | LinkedIn

Minds Capital invests equity into deals by independent sponsors and searchers. For independent sponsors with a deal under LOI, visit Minds Capital to start a conversation. Our website also contains more information about this podcast and for prospective investors.

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• Edited by Anton Rohozov

Corbin Cook and Alex Swanston of Rise Run Capital challenge the "get rich slow" reputation of independent sponsorship. Since starting 6 years ago, after having roadmapped their firm over beers by a bonfire in Wyoming, they have acquired 5 platforms, reaching more than $50m of aggregate EBITDA, before landing their 1st home run exit (7x EBITDA growth in 4 years) a few months ago.

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Corbin Cook | LinkedIn
Alex Swanston | LinkedIn

Minds Capital invests equity into deals by independent sponsors and searchers. For independent sponsors with a deal under LOI, visit Minds Capital to start a conversation. Our website also contains more information about this podcast and for prospective investors.

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Chris Breaux left the world of $500m middle-market deals as an investment banker to build Emberline, an independent sponsor focused on the intersection between government, defense, and vertical tech. Their portfolio consists of 3 platform companies. They view technology and AI as a differentiator in the small business world, leaning heavily in on the implementation and utilization to drive organic growth.

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Chris Breaux | LinkedIn

Minds Capital invests equity into deals by independent sponsors and searchers. For independent sponsors with a deal under LOI, visit Minds Capital to start a conversation. Our website also contains more information about this podcast and for prospective investors.

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Edoardo Maggini is the Operating Partner at Star Step, a specialty coatings rollup. Founded in 2021 by 3 partners, Star Step pivoted away from chasing a $45m EBITDA carveout to aggregating smaller, founder-led businesses, resulting in rapid growth across USA and Europe.

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Edoardo Maggini | LinkedIn

Minds Capital invests equity into deals by independent sponsors and searchers. For independent sponsors with a deal under LOI, visit Minds Capital to start a conversation. Our website also contains more information about this podcast and for prospective investors.

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Aaron Stahl sold his business in 2025 to an independent sponsor. He had spent the previous 21 years founding & building P3 Cost Analysts, a cost reduction consulting company. The change in ownership, he states, was necessary to take risks and grow, and it also enabled Aaron to reclaim his most important asset: time.

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Aaron Stahl | LinkedIn

Minds Capital invests equity into deals by independent sponsors and searchers. For independent sponsors with a deal under LOI, visit Minds Capital to start a conversation. Our website also contains more information about this podcast and for prospective investors.

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Justin Turner and Traction Capital Partners just exited a 7-year hold in the specialty fire equipment distributor space, where they grew revenue from $15m to nearly $100m. Traction Capital proved that a semi-long-term hold allows real value creation, leading to an 11x MOIC and 44% IRR outcome.

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Justin Turner | LinkedIn

Minds Capital invests equity into deals by independent sponsors and searchers. For independent sponsors with a deal under LOI, visit Minds Capital to start a conversation. Our website also contains more information about this podcast and for prospective investors.

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In celebration of our 50th episode, the 3 GPs of Minds Capital share their journey: the media-first strategy's role in creating a deal flow flywheel, behind-the-scenes from the podcast, learnings from high-velocity investing, and thoughts on the future. A special note of gratitude to our investors; thank you for making this journey possible - we're having a blast!

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Minds Capital | LinkedIn

Minds Capital invests equity into deals by independent sponsors and searchers. For independent sponsors with a deal under LOI, visit Minds Capital to start a conversation. Our website also contains more information about this podcast and for prospective investors.

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• Edited by Anton Rohozov

Kevin Wong is the Chief Investment Officer at Lang Partners, a family office based in Dallas. With 15 years on the investment side of the lower-middle market, Kevin has built a reputation as one of the most active and respected LPs in the independent sponsor ecosystem, backing 27 platforms since 2020.

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Kevin Wong | LinkedIn

Minds Capital invests equity into deals by independent sponsors and searchers. For independent sponsors with a deal under LOI, visit Minds Capital to start a conversation. Our website also contains more information about this podcast and for prospective investors.

Connect with Minds:

• See past + future interviews on the YouTube channel
• Connect with hosts Will Smith and Niklas James
• Visit Minds Capital

Credits:

• Edited by Anton Rohozov