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The Co-Living Show

The Co-Living Show

By: Craig Curelop and Miller McSwain
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Co-living is one of the most misunderstood, and highest-potential, ​ strategies in residential real estate investing. Most investors hear the buzzwords, see the cash-flow claims, and immediately assume it’s either too risky, too operationally intense, or too complicated to scale. The truth is simpler: coliving work exceptionally well when built on systems, governed by operational clarity, and executed like a real business, not a side hustle. The Co-Living Show exists to make that clarity accessible for serious professionals who want smarter returns without gambling on guesswork.
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Hosted by BiggerPockets authors Craig Curelop and Miller McSwain, The Co-Living Show goes far beyond surface-level real estate content. This is the only real estate investing podcast dedicated exclusively to the economics, operations, regulations, and strategic frameworks that drive high-density co-living and shared housing at scale. Whether you’re new to the model or a high-earning, time-poor professional seeking exposure to a sophisticated cash-flow real estate strategy without becoming an operator, this show delivers the confidence, understanding, and insight needed to invest intelligently.
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Each episode takes you inside the real-world systems behind co-living performance. You’ll hear from operators running multi-market portfolios, attorneys specializing in zoning and compliance, designers who understand space optimization and profitability, lenders financing room-by-room rental strategies, and property managers and city officials shaping the future of affordable housing innovation. You’ll also hear from the Co-Living Cash Flow Community, everyday investors solving operational challenges and executing the exact frameworks discussed on the show.
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👉 Join the community: www.millermcswain.com/community
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There is no fluff here. No hype. No motivational noise. Every conversation is grounded in data, regulatory insight, operational logic, and investor-level clarity. Co-living is not “passive income.” It’s not a shortcut. It’s a system. And systems — when executed correctly — produce scalable, predictable returns that outperform traditional rental models. This is not speculative theory. It’s cash-flow real estate strategy in action.
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Craig brings acquisitions, underwriting, and market strategy. Miller brings operations, pricing systems, and standardization frameworks that make coliving scalable. Together, they deliver an operator’s perspective of an asset class most investors only see from the outside. As BiggerPockets authors, educators, and practitioners, they simplify complexity without diluting truth: coliving works, but only when done correctly.
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You’ll hear underwriting breakdowns, operator case studies, deal teardowns, regulatory realities, tenant strategy, market analysis, and the economic logic behind high-density residential investing. You’ll learn how to invest passively, partner with experienced operators, or simply understand the business model in depth, even if you never plan to manage a property yourself.
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The Co-Living Show does not claim co-living works.
It proves when, why, and under what conditions it works.
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If you want confidence instead of conjecture, systems instead of speculation, and clarity instead of chaos, this is your source of truth for professional-grade residential real estate investing.
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Subscribe and join thousands of investors building deeper understanding, stronger portfolios, and smarter strategies, without wasting time on noise.
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This is the future of residential real estate investing. And now you’ll finally understand how it works.
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Episodes
  • EP 7 - From $400K Loss to Millions: The Co-Living Lending Comeback Story

    EP 7 - From $400K Loss to Millions: The Co-Living Lending Comeback Story
    Mar 25 2026

    From $400K Loss to Lending Millions: The Co-Living Comeback Story

    In this episode, we’re joined by Fernando Corona, a co-living lender who’s helped investors close hundreds of deals—and built his business after losing over $400,000.

    We break down the real path to success in co-living: failure, resilience, and learning how to solve problems most investors avoid.

    Fernando shares how he:

    • Went from zero income to owning multiple co-living properties
    • Built a lending business by solving his own financing problems
    • Uses creative loan strategies to help investors scale faster

    We also dive into:

    • DSCR loans vs. bank statement loans
    • Financing renovations into your purchase
    • Why most investors misunderstand risk
    • How to think like an operator, not just an investor

    👥 Connect with the Hosts & Guest:

    Miller McSwain: https://www.instagram.com/millermcswain/
    Craig Curelop: https://www.instagram.com/craigcurelop/
    Fernando Corona: https://www.instagram.com/itsfernandocorona/

    🔔 Subscribe & Follow:

    Follow The Co-Living Show for weekly episodes covering:

    • Deal analysis
    • Operations & systems
    • Financing strategies
    • Real stories from active operators

    If this episode helped you, share it with someone who’s trying to get their first (or next) co-living deal.
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    1 hr and 14 mins
  • EP 6 - The Co-Living Operator’s Secret Weapon: Systems, Automation, and Scale

    EP 6 - The Co-Living Operator’s Secret Weapon: Systems, Automation, and Scale
    Mar 18 2026

    In this episode of The Co-Living Show, Craig Curelop and Miller McSwain are joined by Jordan Smith, a co-living operator who has built a 30-bedroom portfolio with a strong focus on systems, automation, and operational efficiency.

    Jordan breaks down how he got started with his first house hack, what the numbers looked like on that first deal, and how his background in management consulting shaped the way he now runs his portfolio. The conversation covers lead generation, pre-screening, automations, communication systems, maintenance workflows, tenant issues, and the operational mindset required to scale co-living well.

    They also discuss why co-living should be treated like a real business, not just a real estate strategy, and why investors need to think carefully about return on equity as they grow.

    If you want a more practical look at what it takes to build a sustainable co-living operation, this episode is for you.

    Connect with the hosts:
    Miller McSwain: www.instagram.com/millermcswain
    Craig Curelop: www.instagram.com/craigcurelop

    Connect with Jordan Smith:
    Instagram: www.instagram.com/smith.t.jordan
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    54 mins
  • EP 5 - How Clara Scaled Co-Living to 160 Rooms in 2.5 Years Without Ads

    EP 5 - How Clara Scaled Co-Living to 160 Rooms in 2.5 Years Without Ads
    Mar 11 2026

    In this episode of The Co-Living Show, Craig Curelop and Miller McSwain are joined by co-living pioneer Clara Arroyave, who scaled a 160-room co-living portfolio generating nearly $2M annually using the arbitrage model.

    Clara shares how she filled rooms without paid marketing by partnering directly with employers, universities, and HR departments, how her portfolio grew rapidly in Boston, and what ultimately happened when COVID disrupted the arbitrage model.

    She also explains the lessons she learned from scaling quickly, why arbitrage shouldn’t be your long-term strategy, and how she’s now focused on purpose-built co-living developments.

    Topics covered include:

    • Building a 160-room co-living portfolio
    • Filling rooms through employer and university partnerships
    • The risks of the arbitrage model
    • Designing co-living properties that maximize occupancy
    • Why private bathrooms increase tenant retention
    • The future of co-living housing

    If you're investing in co-living, house hacking, or room-by-room rentals, this episode provides real insights from someone who has operated at scale.

    Follow the hosts and guest:

    Craig Curelop – https://instagram.com/craigcurelop
    Miller McSwain – https://instagram.com/millermcswain
    Clara Arroyave – https://instagram.com/lifeisrocknroll
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    55 mins
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