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The Gen X/Z Exchange: Navigating Career, Purpose & Modern Life Across Generations

The Gen X/Z Exchange: Navigating Career, Purpose & Modern Life Across Generations

By: Chris and Lily Perkins
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Ever find yourself wondering why you aren’t happier, where your career is going, or why life suddenly feels uncertain — even when everything looks fine on paper?


If you’ve ever felt stuck, off-track, or unsure what comes next, you’re not alone.

The Gen X/Z Exchange is a life navigation podcast where a Gen X dad and his Gen Z daughter explore the biggest challenges facing modern life - from career direction and purpose to relationships, wellbeing, identity and the changing world of work.


Across generations but facing many of the same questions, Chris and Lily bring honest conversations and real-world perspective to the uncertainty so many people feel today. Chris has navigated layoffs, career pivots and the realities of midlife change, while Lily is figuring out early career decisions, identity and adulthood in a fast-changing world.


Together, they bridge generational perspectives to help you:


  • make sense of career and life transitions


  • navigate work and purpose in a changing economy


  • improve relationships and wellbeing


  • feel less alone in the challenges of modern life



These aren’t expert lectures or quick fixes. They’re candid conversations about figuring life out - together.


If you’re navigating a career change, questioning direction, dealing with midlife or quarterlife uncertainty, or simply trying to understand how life looks different across generations, this podcast is for you.


Follow us now and join a growing community learning how to navigate modern life - one honest conversation at a time.


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Episodes
  • How to stop people pleasing - and say no without feeling guilty
    Apr 8 2026

    Do you ever say yes when you mean no — just to avoid awkwardness, conflict, or disappointing someone?

    If so, you’re not alone. People pleasing is far more common than we think — and it can shape our work, relationships and sense of self.

    In this episode of The Gen X/Z Exchange, we unpack our own experiences of people pleasing, why it happens, and what it’s really costing us when we constantly prioritise others over ourselves.

    Together, we explore how social conditioning, fear of confrontation and the desire to be liked can lead us to overcommit, over-explain and ignore our own needs — often without even realising it.

    You’ll learn:

    • What people pleasing really is — and why so many of us fall into it
    • Why fear of being seen as “difficult” keeps us stuck saying yes
    • How social conditioning (especially for women) shapes this behaviour
    • The hidden cost of overcommitting and ignoring your own needs
    • How to say no at work and in life without feeling guilty
    • Why over-explaining undermines your boundaries — and what to say instead
    • Practical ways to set healthier boundaries without coming across as uncaring


    We also challenge each other to change our own behaviour — sharing simple, realistic ways to become more intentional with your “yes” and more confident with your “no”.

    Listen in and you’ll discover how to stop defaulting to people pleasing, start setting boundaries, and make choices that work for you as well as everyone else.

    Hit play now and take the first step towards saying what you really mean.


    1.00 Our own experience with people pleasing

    2.24 A definition

    2.55 How many of us in the UK say we're people pleasers

    3.35 Why our fear of confrontation should not be perceived as being difficult

    3.47 social conditioning for women and more stats on why we should be comfortable setting boundaries

    5.28 The impact of saying yes when we mean no

    6.00 How the problems arise

    9.55 Giving yourself breathing space

    10.55 Things we can do to change our behaviour

    13.55 How to say no at work

    16.54 How to stop over-explaining

    18.15 Setting healthy boundaries without coming across as a flake or uncaring

    20.00 How to be more intentional with your yes's

    20.34 Challenging each other to get better at this

    24.40 Our takeaways


    The Gen X/Z Exchange is a UK podcast exploring career change, purpose, wellbeing and modern life through honest conversations between a Gen X dad and his Gen Z daughter - helping you navigate life’s transitions with perspective across generations.

    Send us a voice message on Speakpipe!

    https://www.speakpipe.com/thegenxzexchange

    Connect with us:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisperkins172/

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/lily-perkins-8446a82bb/


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    28 mins
  • How to talk to teenagers about drinking and drugs - without pushing them away with Diana Hu McDowell
    Mar 25 2026

    Why do teenagers take risks with alcohol and drugs - even when they know the dangers? And how do you talk to them about it without shutting them down or pushing them away?

    In this episode we're joined by Diana Hu McDowell, founder of East West Prevention, to explore how parents and young people can navigate one of the most difficult conversations in modern life.

    Drawing on her own journey and years of experience in prevention and recovery, Diana explains why teenagers are drawn to risk-taking behaviours, the role dopamine plays, and how today’s pressures - from social environments to wider culture - shape those choices.

    You’ll learn:

    • Why teenagers are more vulnerable to addictive behaviours than we might think
    • The early warning signs that drinking or drug use may be escalating
    • How to talk to teenagers about alcohol and drugs without triggering shutdown or secrecy
    • Why “no questions asked” policies can build trust between parents and teens
    • The risks of vaping, marijuana use and so-called 'legal highs'
    • How harm reduction approaches can keep young people safer in real-world situations

    We also explore how attitudes have shifted since 80s anti-drug campaigns, whether prevention initiatives at festivals help or hinder, and why addiction should be understood as a health issue rather than a personal failure.

    Listen in and you’ll discover how to have better conversations, build trust, and help young people make safer choices - without cutting them off from the world they’re growing up in.

    Hit play now and start the conversation that really matters.

    Contact Diana:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/diana-hu-mcdowell/

    https://www.eastwestprevention.com/

    If this episode resonates, you might also find our conversations on social media and teenagers and friendship and peer pressure helpful.


    1.48 Diana's story

    5.15 Diana's recovery

    6.44 Why teenagers are drawn to addictive behaviour

    8.01 The biggest pressures young people are facing today

    9.57 80s anti-drugs campaigns and how the perception they created differed from reality

    12.40 Early warning signs of things escalating

    17.10 How parents can start the conversation with teenagers without them shutting down

    19.08 Tips for parents to avoid overreacting

    25.35 How the 'No questions asked' policy can work to build trust

    27.15 Legal highs - how safe are they?

    30.35 The consequences and risks of vaping and marijuana use

    34.54 Are prevention initiatives at festivals encouraging certain behaviours or helping reduce harm?

    37.19 Diana's successes with prevention and early intervention

    39.20 Framing addiction as a health issue not a personal failure


    The Gen X/Z Exchange is a UK podcast exploring career change, purpose, wellbeing and modern life through honest conversations between a Gen X dad and his Gen Z daughter - helping you navigate life’s transitions with perspective across generations.

    Send us a voice message on Speakpipe!

    https://www.speakpipe.com/thegenxzexchange

    Connect with us:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisperkins172/

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/lily-perkins-8446a82bb/


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    45 mins
  • Why we’re losing the places that bring us together — The UK’s 'Third Place' problem
    Mar 11 2026

    Why does it feel like there are fewer places to meet people, spend time together, or just belong in your community? And what happens to society when those spaces disappear?

    In this episode of The Gen X/Z Exchange, we explore the idea of 'third places' - the pubs, youth clubs, community halls, sports clubs and local spaces that sit between home and work and help communities thrive.

    Across the UK, many of these places are disappearing. Pubs are closing at record rates, youth services have been cut back, and many towns are struggling to maintain the spaces that once brought people together. But there are also inspiring examples showing what’s possible when communities come together.

    We look at why third places matter for people of all generations - and why their loss may be affecting young people especially.

    You’ll learn:

    • What we mean by the 3rd place and why these spaces matter so much
    • Why UK pubs, youth clubs and community spaces are disappearing
    • The impact of losing third places on young people and community life
    • Inspiring UK examples of communities rebuilding local spaces
    • How schools, sport and shared projects can create new gathering places
    • What ideas like fourth places and fifth places might mean for the future


    Listen in and you’ll discover why the spaces where we gather matter more than we realise - and the one simple thing everyone can do to help keep their local third places alive.

    If this conversation resonates, you might also enjoy our episodes on friendship in modern life and why social drinking is changing, which both touch on the same question: where do we actually connect with other people today?

    Hit play and join the conversation.

    1.23 The rate of pub closures across the UK

    2.10 Youth Services cuts 2010-2024

    2.55 Defining Third Places

    4.38 Why are they struggling?

    10.28 How schools can offer 3rd places for young people

    11.50 Why a lack of places is problematic for young people

    13.40 Examples of what's possible: Freddie Flintoff's Field of Dreams

    16.48 DIY SOS Big Builds

    17.20 Pride in Place and Community Right to Buy

    19.04 Newton Aycliffe's Woolworths Model

    22.24 The 4th Place - how to regenerate urban areas with more affordable housing

    23.55 The 5th Place - combined areas that can be quarantined

    25.32 One thing you can do to support your community spaces



    The Gen X/Z Exchange is a UK podcast exploring career change, purpose, wellbeing and modern life through honest conversations between a Gen X dad and his Gen Z daughter - helping you navigate life’s transitions with perspective across generations.

    Send us a voice message on Speakpipe!

    https://www.speakpipe.com/thegenxzexchange

    Connect with us:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisperkins172/

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/lily-perkins-8446a82bb/


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    29 mins
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