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In this episode, I sit down with Brynne Tillman, CEO of Social Sales Link and author of The LinkedIn Sales Playbook, to explore what it really means to build a heart-led business in today’s world of selling.

Brynne has spent decades transforming traditional sales approaches into trust-based conversations, helping professionals move away from cold, transactional tactics toward meaningful, value-driven connections, especially through LinkedIn and AI.

We explore why outdated, pushy sales tactics no longer work and how her CHIRP framework (Challenge, History, Impact, Risk, Priority) creates authentic conversations that convert. Brynne also shares her journey from cold calling to building a referral-driven business through genuine connections.

🎧Tune in to discover how to lead with value, build trust faster, and create conversations that truly matter.

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📌Key Takeaways
✔️Why “detach from the sale” is your new sales superpower
✔️The CHIRP method: the anti-BANT framework you didn’t know you needed
✔️How to earn the right to sell
✔️Turning LinkedIn into a referral-generating machine
✔️Balancing heart-led business with healthy profits—yes, it’s possible!

📌About the Guest
Brynne Tillman is the CEO of Social Sales Link and author of The LinkedIn Sales Playbook and co-author of The LinkedIn Edge and Prompt Writing Made Easy, helping professionals build trust-based conversations using LinkedIn and AI, without being salesy.

📌Additional Resources
✔️Website: www.brynnetillman.com
✔️Email: brynne.tillman@socialsaleslink.com
✔️LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/brynnetillman
✔️Books:
~The LinkedIn Sales Playbook, a Tactical Guide to Social Selling. https://tinyurl.com/yc45h8r7
~The LinkedIn Edge: New Sales Strategies for Unleashing the Power of LinkedIn https://tinyurl.com/29ndzb2d

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Up Next: Nathanael “Tarzan” Rabbitt, founder of Conscious Body Recovery, combines modern recovery science with nature-based practices to enhance resilience, clarity, and well-being, offering practical insights on breathwork, contrast therapy, and self-mastery.

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From Web Design to Warrior Fuel with Trevor Nolan Bower

Trevor Nolan Bower, founder of Centurion Labz, has built a supplement brand that stands for honesty, transparency, and purpose. From running retail stores to creating a community-driven business, his journey is full of lessons on persistence, preparation, and heart-led leadership.

In this episode, discover how Trevor balances business and integrity, empowers his team, supports local stores, and inspires customers to achieve their goals while redefining what it means to lead with heart.

💥 Tune in to hear a story of passion, purpose, and building something that truly makes a difference.

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📌Key Takeaways
✔️How a hands-on approach and personal experience turned Centurion Labz into a trusted name in fitness
✔️Why preparation, purpose, and persistence matter more than flashy marketing or gimmicks
✔️The philosophy of building a brand that truly supports local stores and communities
✔️Lessons on balancing profit with heart-led leadership and empowering your team

📌About the Guest
Trevor Nolan Bower is the founder of Centurion Labz, building America’s most trusted pre-workout brand through transparency, customer feedback, and honest formulations. He helps people train with purpose and take ownership of their health, turning preparation into performance.

📌Additional Resources
✔️Website: www.centurionlabz.com
✔️Phone number: (717) 884-4254
✔️LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/centurion-labz
✔️TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@bowertrev | www.tiktok.com/@centurionlabz
✔️Instagram: www.instagram.com/bowertrev | www.instagram.com/centurion_labz
✔️Facebook: www.facebook.com/centurionlabzofficial
✔️Promo Link:  20% off on Centurion Labz products, use the code: Legion20
https://centurionlabz.com/discount/LEGION20

✨ Explore the Dialogue’s Treasures: Tap here to delve into our conversation: https://tinyurl.com/trevor-nolan-bower

Up Next: Brynne Tillman, CEO of Social Sales Link and co-author of The LinkedIn Edge and Prompt Writing Made Easy. She helps professionals start trust-based LinkedIn and AI conversations, without being salesy.

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School Bus to Seven Figures with Phil Risher
What if you could scale your business from $3M to $5M in just 24 months without losing your heart in the process?

Phil Risher, the genius behind Phlash Consulting, shares how he builds heart-led businesses that win, for clients, employees, and profits, while keeping purpose at the center. From performance pay to building systems that actually work, he shows how profit can fuel impact, not just numbers on a balance sheet.

If you’re ready to rethink growth, leadership, and money, this episode is your blueprint for a business that truly matters.

🎧Listen now, and don’t forget to 👍like, share, and subscribe so you never miss an episode of heart-led business insights!

📌Key Takeaways
✔️Win-Win-Win Philosophy
✔️Empowered Teams Drive Growth
✔️Shift from Hustler to Leader
✔️Systems Enable Scalable Growth
✔️Core Values in Action
✔️Profit as a Tool, Not a Goal
✔️Heart and Strategy Together

📌About the Guest
Phil Risher is the owner of Phlash Consulting, helping local service businesses grow sales and stay fully booked with data-driven marketing. With 15+ years in the service industry, he scaled a $3M business to $5M in 24 months before selling it to private equity. His work has been featured on Forbes, CNBC, Yahoo Finance, The Wall Street Journal, and Jobber’s Masters of Home Service.

📌Additional Resources
✔️Website: www.phlashconsulting.com
✔️Email: info@phlashconsulting.com
✔️LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/philrisher | www.linkedin.com/company/phlash-consulting
✔️YouTube: www.youtube.com/channel/UCVSuWJ-9UlN2DELnWClctxw
✔️Instagram: www.instagram.com/phlashconsulting
✔️Facebook: www.facebook.com/phlashconsulting
✔️Free Playbook : 11 Proven Ways to Get More Customers
✔️Books Mentioned
~Buy Back Your Time by Dan Martell: https://tinyurl.com/4ejjuz3s
~Profit First by Mike Michalowicz: https://tinyurl.com/576khdd9
~Thou Shall Prosper by Rabbi Daniel Lapin: https://tinyurl.com/ye2yz45s

Explore the Dialogue’s Treasures: Tap HERE to delve into our conversation: https://tinyurl.com/phil-risher

Up Next: Trevor Nolan Bower, founder of Centurion Labz, is redefining pre-workouts with honest formulations and real customer feedback. He inspires people to train with purpose and take full ownership of their health.

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