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The Long and The Short Of It

The Long and The Short Of It

By: Peter Shepherd & Jen Waldman
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A weekly podcast for curious people ready to explore the art and science of being human from every possible angle: macro, micro, Australian, American, tall, short and everything in between.2018 The Long and The Short Of It Art Economics Entertainment & Performing Arts Management Management & Leadership Personal Development Personal Success
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  • 392. Breakfast
    Mar 31 2026

    This week, Pete and Jen noodle on the importance of storytelling, starting with the story of what they each had for breakfast (or how they might approach a charcuterie board).

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • Why is storytelling within the workplace and as leaders so important?
    • How might you prompt someone else to tell you a story, and how might that help you learn about them?
    • How do heroes, highlights, and hardships show up in the stories we tell and the ways we behave?

    To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

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    16 mins
  • 391. Replaced by AI?
    Mar 24 2026

    This week, Jen and Pete noodle on the ways that AI cannot replace humans...yet.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • What role do love and care play in the workplace?
    • Why is having a coach important for skill development and growth?
    • How might we incorporate AI into our work, without relying on it?

    To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

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    17 mins
  • 390. Normal
    Mar 17 2026

    This week, Jen and Pete define (and redefine, and redefine, and redefine) the concept of what it means to be normal.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • What is the relationship between normal and average?
    • When might it be a good thing to be normal? When might it be a good thing to not be normal?
    • How might we push back against normalcy, where we want to be extraordinary?

    To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

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    17 mins
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