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The Missions Show

The Missions Show

By: Alex Kocman and Scott Dunford
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The Missions Show answers hard questions about theology, missions, and practice to help goers think and thinkers go. We are conservative, evangelical, and gospel-centered. The Missions Show is powered by ABWE International, a missions agency with a force of more than 1,000 workers serving across 90+ countries with a focus on evangelism, discipleship, and church planting.© The Missions Show 2026 Christianity Ministry & Evangelism Philosophy Social Sciences Spirituality
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  • Protestant Missions and the Catholic Question
    Mar 22 2026

    How should we view Roman Catholicism on the mission field?

    In this episode of The Missions Show, Alex and Scott tackle the complex and often sensitive question of how Protestant missionaries should engage with Roman Catholics in the context of global missions. They emphasize that missions is not just about generic belief in Jesus, but about faithfully communicating the true gospel with doctrinal clarity.

    Alex and Scott explore key theological differences, especially regarding authority and salvation. The episode concludes with practical missiological insights, stressing the need to avoid assuming the gospel in any context and to engage both formal Catholic doctrine and “folk Catholicism” with clarity, compassion, and a commitment to proclaiming the biblical gospel.

    Key Topics
    • The missionary challenge of engaging Roman Catholics and Orthodox believers
    • Why doctrinal clarity (not just belief in Jesus) matters in missions
    • Distinguishing individuals from theological systems
    • The role of church history vs. the authority of Scripture
    • The role of sacraments, merit, and perseverance in Catholic theology
    • The importance of not assuming the gospel—even in “Christian” contexts

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    29 mins
  • Reaching Muslim Refugees With the Gospel
    Mar 15 2026

    In this episode of The Missions Show, Alex and Scott speak with ABWE missionaries “Will and Beth McAuliffe” (pseudonyms) about their long journey toward serving among Arabic-speaking people. After years of preparation and ministry in the Middle East, their plans were unexpectedly disrupted when their daughter was born extremely premature with significant medical complications. The experience forced them to leave the field and wrestle with whether their missionary calling had changed, ultimately leading them to new refugee ministry opportunities in Europe.

    Now living in Berlin, Germany, where thousands of Arabic-speaking refugees have settled, Will and Beth are creating unique opportunities for gospel ministry. Despite the challenges of a deeply secular culture and compassion fatigue toward refugees, they are building relationships, showing practical love, and pursuing church planting among Arabic-speaking communities across the city.

    Key Topics
    • Will and Beth's lifelong calling to missions and ministry in the Middle East
    • Navigating family hardships and their missionary calling after a medical crisis
    • Reaching Arabic-speaking refugees in Germany
    • The spiritual challenges of secular Europe and refugee ministry

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    • Exclusive bonus content
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    • Invite-only webinars
    • A free gift!

    Support The Missions Show and sign up to be a Premium Subscriber at missionsshow.com/premium

    The Missions Show is powered by ABWE. Learn more and take your next step in the Great Commission at abwe.org.

    Want to ask a question or suggest a topic? Email alex@missionsshow.com.

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    28 mins
  • Demystifying the Order of Love
    Mar 8 2026

    How does Scripture order our affections?

    In this episode, Alex and Scott unpack the historic Christian concept of the ordo amoris—the “order of loves”—and why it matters for missions today. Drawing from Alex’s new book Ordered to Love, they explore how Scripture and theologians like Augustine and Aquinas teach that our loves must be rightly ordered, beginning with God and flowing outward to family, church, nation, and the nations.

    Together they address current cultural tensions—nationalism, global instability, and missionary urgency—and ask how Christians should prioritize their responsibilities in a limited, embodied life. Alex and Scott clarify that grace does not destroy nature but restores it—meaning allegiance to Christ rightly orders, rather than erases, our natural relationships.

    Key Topics:
    • What the ordo amoris is and why it matters to missions
    • Family, church, nation, and global mission in proper relationship
    • Missionary guilt vs. faithful obedience
    • Grace restoring (not erasing) natural relationships

    Do you love The Missions Show? Have you been blessed by the show? Then become a Premium Subscriber!

    Premium Subscribers get access to:

    • Exclusive bonus content
    • A community Signal thread with other listeners and the hosts
    • Invite-only webinars
    • A free gift!

    Support The Missions Show and sign up to be a Premium Subscriber at missionsshow.com/premium

    The Missions Show is powered by ABWE. Learn more and take your next step in the Great Commission at abwe.org.

    Want to ask a question or suggest a topic? Email alex@missionsshow.com.

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    29 mins
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