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The Panel

The Panel

By: Justin Jackson Brian Casel Jordan Gal
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When it comes to bootstrapping and building software, there's rarely one right answer. We want to dive into the nuance. In every episode, veteran founders Justin Jackson, Brian Casel and Jordan Gal tackle thorny topics – from pricing and product strategy to work-life balance. No gurus, no easy answers – just real conversations we'd normally have behind closed doors.© 2026 The Panel Podcast Economics Leadership Management & Leadership
Episodes
  • Is "vision" overrated?
    Apr 10 2026

    Does vision matter? And how far into the future should your vision be these days? And how do we deal with copycats in the age of AI? And who is our money pin in the Anthropic vs OpenAI vs Google horse race, especially with mythos in the news.

    Timestamps:

    • (00:22) - Jordan's our host this episode
    • (02:57) - Struggles with pricing on analytics and tracking
    • (08:22) - What are the metrics you look at every day?
    • (19:06) - Thinking about profitability
    • (27:16) - Anthropic vs OpenAI vs Google AI horse race
    • (34:38) - Is Mythos actually that much better?
    • (40:20) - The addictive nature of coding with AI
    • (45:16) - What if the gap becomes greater between what we can afford?
    • (49:11) - Struggling with copycasts in AI?
    • (01:05:51) - Do we need a clear vision for the future or just build?

    YOU ARE THE PANEL – send us your thoughts 🗣️
    • 🎤 Send us an audio or video message
    • 📧 Email us: panelpodcastshow@gmail.com
    • 📺 Leave a comment on YouTube
    • 🦋 Reply on Bluesky

    Links mentioned in this episode:

    • Quick Sight – AWS https://aws.amazon.com/quick/quicksight/
    • Stripe Sigma https://stripe.com/en-mx/sigma
    • Paddle https://www.paddle.com/profitwell-metrics
    • Claude Mythos https://red.anthropic.com/2026/mythos-preview/
    • Owner.com https://www.owner.com/
    • Base44 https://base44.com/
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    1 hr and 32 mins
  • Respite from the Dopamine Machine
    Apr 3 2026

    Why doesn't AI prompt us more often if it's so smart? Ryan Hefner joins us to chat about our daily drivers for shoes, IDE, AI provider, getting the news, and planning a vacation.

    Timestamps:

    • (00:07) - Introducing Ryan Hefner
    • (03:53) - Today's topic: how we choose our daily drivers
    • (04:54) - Updates with Justin
    • (08:54) - Update from Brian
    • (14:16) - Ryan's Launch week concept
    • (23:04) - The concept of daily drivers in life
    • (25:35) - Daily driver shoes
    • (29:58) - Daily driver IDE
    • (33:31) - Remote controlling Claude
    • (44:44) - Daily driver for AI
    • (50:09) - We often stick with a product even when a new one would be more efficient or helpful
    • (53:37) - Daily driver for getting the news
    • (01:04:32) - Daily drivers for vacations
    • (01:15:11) - AI needs to be prompting us more
    • (01:22:01) - Daily driver for voice transcription

    YOU ARE THE PANEL – send us your thoughts 🗣️
    • 🎤 Send us an audio or video message
    • 📧 Email us: panelpodcastshow@gmail.com
    • 📺 Leave a comment on YouTube
    • 🦋 Reply on Bluesky

    Links mentioned in this episode:

    • Transistor helps publish TBPN video podcast on Apple Podcasts
    • Brian's job posting
    • Ryan's new app: Launch Weeks
    • Freek's new app
    • OpenAI buys TBPN for hundreds of millions
    • T3 Code editor
    • OpenAI Codex
    • Superset.sh
    • Conductor
    • Solo
    • CMUX
    • Codex plugin for Claude Code
    • Surf.social
    • Tangle news
    • Ground News
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    1 hr and 29 mins
  • Can AI be your CRM?
    Mar 27 2026

    Justin's hosting this one and he brought along Ben Curtis from Honeybadger to talk about how AI can be a CRM and also your designer.

    Timestamps:

    • (00:15) - Introducing Ben Curtis
    • (02:57) - How is Honeybadger using AI?
    • (06:35) - How do you determine which model to use for different problems?
    • (09:33) - How are we using AI in marketing and sales?
    • (24:09) - How Steve Schoger used AI to design
    • (33:32) - How much longer will websites matter?
    • (38:47) - How intelligent are LLMs at product market fit?
    • (44:40) - Transistor Update: Video podcast hosting + Ghost integration
    • (47:18) - What Honeybadger is working on
    • (50:26) - Updates from Brian's work

    YOU ARE THE PANEL – send us your thoughts 🗣️
    • 🎤 Send us an audio or video message
    • 📧 Email us: panelpodcastshow@gmail.com
    • 📺 Leave a comment on YouTube
    • 🦋 Reply on Bluesky

    Links mentioned in this episode:

    • Ghost CMS
    • Claude AI
    • Codex by OpenAI
    • Hatchbox for Deployment
    • Figma
    • Google Stitch
    • Tailwind CSS
    • Claude MCP for Figma
    • @SteveSchoger designs with Claude
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    58 mins
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