• 9: I Hurt Myself Sleeping… and Other Midlife Realities
    Mar 30 2026

    This week, the Recovering Nice Girls Club is finally IRL (in real life), and things get real, hilarious, and just a little unhinged (in the best way).

    We’re talking:

    • The very real struggle of transitioning from wool socks to flip flops (and whether your toenails are emotionally ready)

    • A Hawaii vacation that was… basically a week-long rainstorm

    • The moment you realize you’ve officially entered the “I injured myself sleeping” phase of life

    • And why putting on a belt suddenly feels like an Olympic event

    But this episode also has heart.

    After loss, there’s a new beginning—Angela introduces her newly adopted greyhound, Olivia (yes, she’s a world traveler from Australia and yes, she’s basically a velvet couch potato 🖤). We get into the surprising realities of retired racing dogs, second chances, and what it actually takes to learn how to “just be a dog.”

    And because this is who we are… we somehow also cover:

    • Feeding tortillas to wild animals (apparently a universal hit)

    • Why women are conditioned to be “nice girls” in the first place

    • And whether hormones might secretly be the key to feeling like a puppy again 👀

    It’s equal parts laughter, honesty, and “did we really just say that out loud?”

    If you’ve ever:

    • Tried to hold it together while life throws you curveballs

    • Felt like your body didn’t get the memo that you’re still 25

    • Or wondered if being “nice” is actually holding you back

    …this episode is for you.

    Grab a drink, settle in, and come hang out with us 💛

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    56 mins
  • 10: Brownies, Best Friends & a Potato in the Mail
    Mar 22 2026

    🎙️ This week, the Recovering Nice Girls Club accidentally turns into a cooking show… and honestly, we’re not mad about it.

    We’re baking brownies, making “healthy” blueberry scones (don’t ask too many questions), and doing what we do best, talking about literally everything else along the way.

    In this episode, we go way back:

    • The exact moment we met (and why we didn’t like each other at first 👀)

    • The infamous Holly Hobbie coat incident

    • The staged recess fight that fooled everyone

    • And the heartbreak of being separated… followed by letters, long-distance calls, and yes, mailing each other potatoes

    Because that’s what best friends do.

    We also get into:

    • The phrases only our generation understands (“for Pete’s sake” and “smack dab” anyone?)

    • Why kids today make zero sense sometimes

    • And how a fifth-grade teacher somehow knew we were meant to stay friends for life

    This episode is messy, nostalgic, and full of laughs, but underneath it all, it’s about something real:

    👉 The kind of friendship that sticks… no matter what.

    If you’ve ever had a best friend who feels more like family, or if you’ve ever laughed so hard you cried while making something in the kitchen, this one’s for you.

    Grab a snack (or a potato 🥔), and come hang out with us.

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    53 mins
  • 8: Societal Expectations and Creating Your Own Traditional Path
    Feb 24 2026

    This episode of The Recovering Nice Girls Club explores the delicate balance between grieving a profound loss and finding the "spark" to move forward. Natalie and Angela share deeply personal stories about the loss of beloved animal companions, the challenges of being a woman in male-dominated industries, and how they are learning to trade "nice girl" compliance for authentic confidence.


    Can you find hope in the midst of heartbreak?

    After a short break, Natalie and Angela return with a heartfelt and honest conversation about life’s most difficult transitions. This week, Angela opens up about the sudden loss of her beloved dog, Gem, and the bittersweet journey of preparing her home to adopt another rescue.


    Meanwhile, Natalie celebrates the launch of her second children’s book, The Heart of a Wild Horse, which mirrors her own experience of healing after losing a soul-mate horse of 18 years and opening up her heart again to adopt a wild horse. Together, they discuss why finding a "spark" of excitement is vital for lifting yourself out of the heavy fog of grief.


    The duo also tackles the reality of being a "Recovering Nice Girl" in the professional world. Natalie shares a candid look at the strategies she uses to be taken seriously as a woman in the boat detailing industry, from finding her voice with skeptical customers to her "nothing to see here" wardrobe strategy for navigating male-dominated boatyards.


    In this episode, we discuss:

    • Navigating Pet Loss: The unique bond with rescue animals and the process of "home studies" for adoption.


    • Telling Your Story: Natalie finds ways to tell her story through her children's books and


    • Confidence vs. Compliance: Learning to stand your ground when experts (or "crusty sea captains") doubt your abilities.


    • Generational Shifts: A look at how expectations for women have evolved from the 1960s to 2026. (Spoiler alert - they haven't changed much!)


    Links Mentioned:

    • The Heart of a Wild Horse

    • The Adventures of Barnaby, Penelope, and Pip

    • The Insider’s Guide to Boat Cleaning and Detailing

    • Fake It Till You Make It, But Don’t Fake It Till You Break It

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    51 mins
  • 7: Sometimes, You Just Have to Be Direct
    Jan 30 2026

    In this conversation, Natalie, Angela and their long-time friend Jennifer discuss their experiences with personal growth, recovery from relationships, and the challenges of being 'nice girls' who struggle to assert themselves.

    They reflect on the importance of awareness, setting boundaries, and embracing uncertainty in their lives. The discussion highlights the journey of self-discovery and the ongoing process of recovery from societal expectations.

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    20 mins
  • 6: Awareness is Baby Step #1
    Jan 30 2026

    In this episode, Natalie and Angela cozy up after the holiday whirlwind to chat about traditions, growth, and the ever‑relatable Nice Girl Syndrome. They dig into how generational conditioning shapes the way women show up in the world, and how media role models can nudge us toward being bolder, braver, and more ourselves at work and beyond.

    Together, they unpack the awkward, empowering, and sometimes hilarious process of learning to speak with confidence, set boundaries, and see challenges as invitations to grow. And as the New Year approaches, they share the rituals and intentions that help them step into the next chapter with clarity and heart.

    Episode highlights:

    • Holiday season: survived, celebrated, and full of stories worth sharing
    • Growing awareness of our Nice Girl tendencies—and what to do with that insight
    • Realizing we’re not alone when we talk openly about our experiences
    • How generational patterns quietly shape our self‑perception
    • Why media representation matters for women finding their voice professionally
    • Building confidence in tough conversations (one imperfect attempt at a time)
    • Reframing challenges as growth opportunities
    • Embracing personal development as an ongoing, evolving journey
    • Welcoming the New Year with reflection, intention, and a fresh sense of possibility
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    48 mins
  • 5: Create Your Script
    Dec 16 2025

    In this engaging conversation, Natalie and Angela explore the complexities of communication, particularly focusing on the challenges faced by women in expressing themselves assertively.


    They discuss the 'Nice Girl Syndrome,' societal expectations, and the importance of setting boundaries. Through personal anecdotes and reflections, they highlight the need for women to embrace assertiveness while maintaining kindness.


    Their conversation also touches on the idea of holding both men and women accountable for their interactions. The girls conclude with actionable strategies for setting boundaries using a "script" they create that will help them sound more assertive while still coming across as polite or kind.


    Baby steps!!!

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    46 mins
  • 4: Getting Past the Fear of Speaking Up
    Dec 3 2025

    Angela and Natalie spend the first few minutes talking about their Thanksgiving shenanigans, which include pantyhose bowling and a rather large Saran wrap ball full of lip balm and dollar bills.


    The girls then discuss the importance of finding one's voice in everyday situations. They explore the challenges faced by individuals, particularly women, in asserting themselves and speaking up when necessary.


    Their discussion highlights the societal pressures that often lead to self-censorship and the need for confidence in communication.


    They end with challenging each other this week to listen for moments in conversation where they should speak up instead of not saying anything for fear of sounding rude or too assertive. If it's warranted, speak up and say something!

    We hope you enjoy our podcast and please remember to follow us! (Thank you!)


    A few key take-aways:

    • There are many opportunities to use our voice in daily life.
    • Women often fear sounding rude when speaking up.
    • Societal norms can hinder self-expression.
    • It's important to assert oneself in conversations.
    • Confidence is key to effective communication.
    • Speaking up can change the dynamics of a conversation.
    • Self-censorship is a common issue for many, especially those with "nice girl" syndrome.
    • Finding your voice is a journey of personal growth.


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    58 mins
  • 3: The "Going Along With It" Syndrome
    Nov 26 2025

    In this Thanksgiving week episode, the Recovering Nice Girls Club dives deep into the dangerous habit of "going along with things" to keep the peace. The girls explore the disconnect between knowing something is wrong in your head but feeling unable to speak up in the moment.

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    Key Discussion Points

    1. Gratitude for Shared Trauma The episode opens with a moment of Thanksgiving gratitude. We both express how thankful we are to have a friend who truly understands the specific journey we've been on. Natalie notes that while she wishes she didn't have to go through the trauma, she's glad we're on the path to recovery together.


    2. The Mechanism of "Going Along With It" We discuss the internal struggle of the "nice girl."

    • The Freeze Response: We describe moments where we clearly saw bad behavior but felt we "shouldn't speak out" or "talk back," leading you to shutting down rather than confronting the issue.

    • Rose-Colored Glasses: Angela notes that Natalie's personality type tends to see the glass as half full, which is usually a positive trait. However, in toxic relationships, this positivity can be dangerous because it causes you to ignore reality.

    3. Real-Life Examples of Ignoring Red Flags Both of us share vulnerable stories about times when we ignored our gut instincts:

    • The Neighbor Incident: Natalie recounted a time an ex-boyfriend was rude to an elderly neighbor regarding parking. Despite fundamentally disagreeing with his actions and thinking he was being a "jerk," she felt stuck living with him and couldn't make him stop. Instead of leaving or forcing the issue, she tried to smooth things over to avoid conflict.

    • The Credit Card Stack: Angela shared a major story from her past engagement. Just before the wedding, she discovered her fiancé had a two-inch stack of maxed-out credit cards. Despite this massive financial infidelity and the red flag of him living with roommates in his 30s, she proceeded with the marriage, convincing herself she could help him "fix" it.

    4. The "Enabling" Revelation The crucial realization of this episode is that silence isn't just "being nice"; it is enabling. We both realized that by staying and trying to be polite, we were inadvertently allowing these partners to continue their bad behavior. Angela jokingly suggested needing a whistle or a siren to alert each other if we ever start "enabling" someone again.


    Conclusion: The episode concludes with a warning to younger listeners: Do not sacrifice your morals or ignore red flags just to be "nice". You cannot love someone into changing, and compromising your values for a relationship is a high price to pay.

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    34 mins