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The Selling Podcast

The Selling Podcast

By: Mike Williams and Scott Schlofman
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Feeling stuck in a sales slump? Pipeline looking thinner than a supermodel on a juice cleanse? Want to grow your business faster than a startup funded by a lottery winner? Then buckle up, buttercup, because "The Selling Podcast" is your new obsession!


Join your seasoned (slightly graying but still very spry) sales pros, Mike and Scott, who collectively boast over 50 years of crushing quotas (and racking up enough airline and hotel points to live perpetually in a suite). They're not just here to drop wisdom; they're here to deliver a potent mix of "deep-ish thoughts and some truly mediocre advice" (their words, not ours... mostly) on everything from closing monster deals to navigating the wild ride of life.


Every week, prepare for unfiltered stories, battle-tested philosophies, hard-earned insights, and enough random tangents to keep you laughing – and learning! They even drag in some special guests (who usually offer the really deep insights, just between us) to elevate the conversation even further.


Whether you're a seasoned sales manager, a hungry rep grinding for commission, or just someone who wants to understand the human element of persuasion, Mike and Scott cut through the fluff with their signature blend of sharp sales strategies and hilarious banter.


Stop wishing for more sales, start getting them! Hit subscribe, join the conversation, and let Mike and Scott help you sell better, live better, and most of all... enjoy all of it!

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Episodes
  • Nothing Happens Until Something is Sold: Breaking the Procrastination Cycle
    Mar 25 2026

    This week, we tackle the silent killer of sales productivity: Analysis Paralysis. As the old saying goes, "Nothing happens until something is sold," yet many sales reps find themselves stuck in the "basement office," over-strategizing while their prospects move on to competitors.

    Scott and "Old Dude" break down why we get stuck in the parking lot, the difference between preparation and procrastination, and how to build the "Ready, Fire, Aim" mindset required to actually close deals.

    In this episode, we discuss:
    • The 70% Rule: Why a "bad plan" violently executed today is better than a perfect plan that never launches.
    • The Fish Hatchery Strategy: How to contain "collateral damage" by testing your pitch in small, safe ponds (like friends, family, or mentors) before hitting the big stage.
    • The Imposter Syndrome Trap: Overcoming the "White Coat Syndrome" and realizing that most prospects aren't looking for perfection—they’re looking for action.
    • Measuring Activity vs. Preparation: Why your CRM should reflect how many times you "dipped your toe in the water," not how many hours you spent researching.
    • The 5-Minute Rule: If a sales action (an email, a follow-up, a quick intro) takes less than five minutes, do it immediately.
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    31 mins
  • The Science of Selling: Why Systems Beat Goals Every Time with Professor BJ Allen
    Mar 18 2026

    This week, we bridge the gap between the classroom and the closing room. We are joined by BJ Allen, Professor of Marketing and Sales at Brigham Young University (BYU). BJ isn't just a theorist; he’s an expert in the "Silicone Slopes" tech scene, a researcher, and a mentor to the next generation of sales superstars.

    We dive deep into the evolution of sales—from the "old school" days of Xerox and IBM to the modern "SaaS Machine." BJ explains why sales is no longer just "artistry" or "fluffy" talk—it’s a data-driven process where the best learners always become the best earners.

    In this episode, we discuss:
    • The "Spin" Revolution: Why the Spin Selling methodology changed the game by proving sales is a repeatable process.
    • The "Frenemy" Relationship: How marketing and sales are finally aligning through Account-Based Marketing (ABM).
    • LinkedIn as Your Personal Website: Why 90% of B2B buyers vet you online before they ever take your call—and how to brand yourself as a content expert, not just a "President’s Club" winner.
    • The Power of Micro-Testing: Why you should A/B test your subject lines and intros like a scientist to see what actually moves the needle.
    • AI and the Authenticity Gap: Why the rise of automation is actually a "golden ticket" for salespeople who double down on human, personalized interactions.
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    34 mins
  • Beyond the Resume: Tim Germann’s 3 Pillars for Building High-Performance Teams
    Mar 11 2026

    Hiring is a gamble, but you don't have to play with blinders on. This week, we welcome back Tim Germann, Chief Commercial Officer at Carterra, to pull back the curtain on how he builds world-class commercial teams. Tim breaks down his "Three Pillars" for identifying top talent: a documented history of success, a relentless work ethic verified by deep-dive references, and the ability to articulate every career transition with ownership rather than excuses.

    We explore the "Razor’s Edge" of the interview—finding that rare individual who is infinitely confident in their past results but appropriately humble about the challenges ahead. Tim also shares a powerful lesson on self-awareness and social anxiety in leadership, and why even a "corporate flame-out" can be the germination point for a future superstar. If you are a hiring manager looking to lower your risk or a candidate looking to stand out, this masterclass in interviewing is for you.

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    39 mins
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