Welcome back to another episode of Walking with God with Hanna Eyobed. In this conversation, Hanna sits down with Cameron Anderson — writer, visual artist, and Distinguished Fellow for the Arts at the Lumen Center in Madison, Wisconsin — for a rich and unhurried conversation about creativity, identity, and what it means to do the work God has prepared for us.

Cam has spent over 30 years investing in campus ministry through InterVarsity Christian Fellowship and now serves as Senior Advisor to the SL Brown Foundation. He is the author of Faithful Artists (IVP Academic, 2016) and maintains a blog called https://liminalmaker.com, where he writes at the intersection of art, faith, and everyday life.

In This Episode
Hanna and Cam explore what it looks like to slowly and faithfully grow into the creative person God made you to be. Together they discuss:

• Liminality — what it means to be “in between,” and why that space is not the same as being lost. Cam draws on the story of the Israelites in the wilderness as a picture of how we move through unknown seasons with our story and God’s promises intact.
• Becoming an artist and a writer — Cam shares how his love of making things began on a farm in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, led to a BFA and MFA in painting and drawing, and eventually — decades later — to published books and a blog. He reflects on the moment on an airplane in his early fifties when he said “I’m an artist” out loud for the first time and surprised himself.
• The “builder” metaphor — Why Cam describes himself most essentially as a builder — of art, of essays, of ministries, of relationships — and what that posture of craftsmanship has to say to a culture addicted to speed and instant results.
• Discipleship as a long journey — Reflecting on how even Jesus’ own disciples, after three years with him daily, were still learning and still asking questions. What does it mean to commit to that kind of patient, faithful formation?
• Presence, the senses, and haptic knowledge — A beautiful conversation about what we lose when we fill every moment with screens and sound, and what we gain when we stay alive to the physical world — the smell of sawdust, the feel of a legal pad, the sound of birds returning in spring.
• The creative process — How Cam moves from observation and imagination to the act of making, and the parallels between creating a physical object and writing a text. Both involve stepping into the unknown with only a rough map and discovering meaning in the process.
• Ephesians 2 and vocation — “We’re not saved by works, but we’re saved to do work.” Cam shares how this passage became a foundation for understanding that the art and writing he was made for isn’t a hobby on the side — it’s the work God set aside for him to do.

Scripture Referenced

• Ephesians 2:8–10 — Saved by grace, through faith, for the good works God prepared in advance for us to do.

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Produced by Daniel Johnson, Dave Conour, and Brian Beatty

Edited by Dave Conour

Host Hanna Eyobed sits down with her friends Nana and Camille to reflect on a life-changing mission trip to Thailand with New Culture Church. The three women share candid stories from the field, honest wrestling with faith, and the unexpected ways God met them — and changed them — through the journey.

Guests

• Naana Dampare — Current UW-Madison senior majoring in Neurobiology
• Camille Miles — UW-Madison 2024 graduate

The New Culture Church team served alongside Full Heart Church in Korat and International Christian Assembly (ICA) in Bangkok, visiting:

• Three local schools
• A youth prison
• Homeless shelters
• The Red Light District in Bangkok (prayer walk and Sealed Kids Club)
• A rural village to pray with the only known believer in the area

Hanna, Nana, and Camille reflect on a transformative mission trip to Thailand, where God's provision carried them from a leap of faith through seven months of preparation and into the field — serving incarcerated youth, children in the Red-Light District, and a lone believer in a rural village. They wrestle honestly with what faithful missions looks like: approaching communities with a servant's heart, contextualizing the Gospel with cultural humility, and navigating spiritual discernment in a Buddhist country with wisdom over boldness. Each woman left with a deeper revelation of God — Camille anchored in His sovereignty, Nana moved by His intentionality in the smallest moments, and Hanna resting in His trustworthiness to work through imperfect people — convictions deepened by the fervent, joy-rooted prayer of the Thai church they now carry home.

Key Scriptures Referenced

• Philippians 1:6 — "He who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion."
• Colossians 1:17 — He holds all things together.
• The Lord's Prayer — "Your kingdom come, your will be done."

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"Many Christians think that they are sent on mission to change the world through the gospel — but oftentimes, we find ourselves changed by the same gospel." — Hanna Eyobed

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Edited by Dave Conour

In this season two premiere, Hanna sits down with her close friend Ellie for a candid, deeply personal conversation about faith, transformation, and what it truly means to follow Jesus. Ellie shares how a single video on a treadmill changed the course of her life — and how she has grown from a self-described "lukewarm" believer into someone fully surrendered to Christ. Together, they explore what it means to be set apart, how to navigate doubt with faith, and the difference between conviction and shame.

What We Cover in This Episode

• The January 2024 moment on the treadmill — how a YouTube video about lukewarm Christianity sparked a supernatural encounter with God
• Going from dead words on a page to a life-giving, alive relationship with Scripture
• What it looks like to be truly transformed vs. cultural Christianity
• The practice of presence — how Jesus modeled availability and what that means for our daily lives
• What being "set apart" really means, and why following Jesus and transformation can't be separated
• Conviction vs. Shame: how God meets us with grace and not condemnation
• Navigating seasons of deep doubt — spiritual warfare, faithfulness, and coming out the other side stronger
• Leaning on community and Scripture through the hardest seasons of faith

Key Scriptures Referenced

• 2 Corinthians 2:15 "Our lives are a Christ-like fragrance rising up to God..." — on why true Christianity can seem offensive to those who haven't encountered it.
• Romans 12:2 "Don't copy the behavior and customs of the world, but let God transform you into a new person by changing the way you think." — on being set apart.
• Colossians 1:19 "God was pleased to have all His fullness dwell in Him" — on emptying ourselves so Christ can shine through us.
• Galatians 6:9 "Let us not grow weary in doing good, for in due season we will reap if we do not give up." — Ellie's anchor verse through seasons of doubt.

Resources Mentioned

• Ashley Heatherington — Christian content creator whose video on lukewarm Christianity was the catalyst for Ellie's conversion.
• Street Lights Bible on Spotify — Pure Scripture set to beats; recommended for a fresh way to digest God's Word.

Catch Up on Season 1 Episodes

• Listen to Season 1 at: walkingwithgodwithhannaeyobed.buzzsprout.com
• Episode 4 — Discovering God's Love: From Religion to Relationship
• Episode 3 — Finding Joy Through Obedience
• Episode 2 — Childlike Faith: Embracing God's Fatherhood and Divine Provision
• Episode 1 — Finding Strength in God's Presence

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This episode was created by the SLBF STUDIO. Find more media resources at https://slbf.org/studio.

Produced by Daniel Johnson, Dave Conour, and Brian Beatty

Edited by Dave Conour