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Working Caregivers: The Invisible Employees

Working Caregivers: The Invisible Employees

By: Selma Archer & Zack Demopoulos
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Did you know that in 2020 there were 53 million caregivers in the United States? By 2025, this number is expected to significantly expand to 62.5 million. 73% of these individuals have to juggle the responsibilities of working a job while being a caregiver. They are called “working caregivers” and are often referred to as “invisible” because they typically remain silent about their caregiving challenges. Nor do they seek help from their colleagues at work or their managers, choosing to face alone the negative financial, physical, mental and emotional impacts that being a working caregiver often presents.

Employers, you have a tremendous opportunity to support the working caregivers in your workforce. "Working Caregivers: The Invisible Employees" is a podcast that will show you how. Hosted by Selma Archer and Zack Demopoulos, authors of a book with the same name, this series dives deep into the challenges and opportunities faced by working caregivers and their employers.

Whether you are in the C-suite, a leader, HR, or a working caregiver yourself, "Working Caregivers: The Invisible Employees" is a podcast for you. We address the pressing issues of retaining talent, managing productivity, and creating a supportive workplace culture. Learn how to provide meaningful benefits, understand the costs and implications of caregiving on healthcare, and foster an environment that values and supports your employees through their caregiving journey. We can all help make meaningful differences in the lives of employees who work and care for others.

Tune in every other Tuesday to gain insights, practical tips, and heartfelt discussions that aim to solve the unique problems working caregivers encounter. Don’t forget to visit our website, invisibleemployeeadvocates.com, to subscribe to our newsletter, and purchase our book to learn how we can help you strengthen your workplace to become more supportive of working caregivers.

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Episodes
  • Why Caregivers Are Often Overlooked at Work
    Mar 24 2026

    In this episode, we sit down with Karen Kavanaugh to unpack the real challenges facing working caregivers—and why so many of them still feel invisible. From systemic breakdowns to cultural blind spots, we explore what’s really happening behind the scenes for employees balancing work and caregiving, and why employers can’t afford to ignore it any longer.

    We also dive into what’s actually working. Karen shares powerful insights from her work with employers across the country, including innovative approaches to supporting caregivers in the workplace. Along the way, we reflect on our own caregiving journeys, what gives us hope, and the critical role community and leadership play in driving meaningful change.

    Episode Highlights

    [1:36] - Welcoming Karen and kicking things off with a lighthearted intro (and Zack’s birthday!)

    [4:44] - Karen shares her personal caregiving experiences and the impact of employer support

    [6:58] - How Karen’s career led her into caregiver advocacy and research

    [11:07] - The role of the Rosalynn Carter Institute and why employer engagement matters

    [16:39] - Inside the “Innovation Lab” and what employers are learning about caregiving

    [21:47] - Surprising insights and challenges employers face today

    [25:05] - Misconceptions on both sides: employers vs. caregivers

    [28:03] - Practical advice for managers to better support caregiver employees

    [31:38] - Where Karen finds hope in today’s caregiving landscape

    [35:37] - Simple, actionable steps employers can take right now

    [39:04] - What gives us hope as caregivers and advocates

    Links & Resources

    Diego Rivera, Detroit Industry Murals
    https://smarthistory.org/rivera-detroit-industry-murals/

    Episode 30: The Future of Caregiving at Work with Lindsay Jurist-Rosner (Wellthy)

    National Alliance for Caregiving https://www.caregiving.org/

    Family Caregiver Alliance https://www.caregiver.org/

    Rosalynn Carter Institute for Caregivers https://rosalynncarter.org/

    REACT Report (AARP)
    https://caregivers.org.il/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/AARP-ReAct-MASTER-web.pdf

    Stand By Me: A Guide to Navigating Modern, Meaningful Caregiving https://www.amazon.com/Stand-Me-Navigating-Meaningful-Caregiving/dp/1668005808

    Susie Singer Carter: @susiesingercarter

    Jason Resendez: Linkedin

    Karen Kavanaugh: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karen-kavanaugh/

    karen.kavanaugh@tuftsmedicine.org

    Episode 23: Grief, Caregiving, and the Power of Connection with Leslie Weirich

    If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to follow the podcast and leave a review. Remember to check out our website at invisibleemployeeadvocates.com for more resources and subscribe to our newsletter for updates! We’ll catch you in the next episode.

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    44 mins
  • Navigating the Legal and Practical Challenges After a Cancer Diagnosis
    Mar 11 2026

    In this episode, we sit down with Monica Bryant, co-founder of Triage Cancer, to talk about the often-overlooked legal and practical challenges that follow a cancer diagnosis. As caregivers and advocates, we explore how navigating health insurance, workplace rights, and treatment logistics can quickly become overwhelming for families already dealing with the emotional weight of cancer. Monica shares how Triage Cancer empowers patients and caregivers with the knowledge they need to make informed decisions and reduce stress.

    We also discuss the role employers and healthcare providers play in supporting working caregivers, how tools like AI may help expand access to information, and why understanding your legal and financial options can make a meaningful difference during the cancer journey.

    [00:00] – Why employers want to support caregivers but often don’t know how to start.

    [01:02] – We welcome Monica Bryant and kick off the conversation with a fun Chicago icebreaker.

    [02:34] – Monica explains how Triage Cancer was founded and why legal education is critical after a cancer diagnosis.

    [04:17] – How Triage Cancer helps patients and caregivers navigate legal, financial, and workplace issues.

    [06:18] – Why caregiving during cancer often becomes urgent and overwhelming for families.

    [07:32] – The psychosocial impact of caregiving and how access to information can reduce stress and anxiety.

    [09:09] – The complexities of treatment decisions, insurance coverage, and navigating healthcare systems.

    [11:20] – How Triage Cancer works with healthcare professionals to better support patients and caregivers.

    [15:42] – Our discussion about AI in healthcare and where technology can help without replacing human empathy.

    [19:26] – A powerful real-life story showing how the right legal knowledge helped a father protect his daughter’s cancer treatment.

    [23:02] – Policy changes and how shifts in healthcare coverage could impact millions of Americans.

    [25:43] – How listeners can access Triage Cancer’s free educational resources, events, and support tools.

    [27:59] – Monica’s important reminder: why everyone over 18 should have an estate plan in place.

    Links & Resources:

    Triage Cancer website: Home

    Triage Health website: Home

    Stacie Vanags' Working Caregiver Story: Stories from
    Real Working Caregivers

    Charlotte Bayala Cancer Caregiver Podcast: The Cancer Caregiver

    Monica Fawzy Bryant is a cancer rights attorney and the co-founder and
    Chief Mission Officer for Triage Cancer. Monica has dedicated her career to
    improving access to and availability of quality information on the practical,
    insurance, financial, and legal issues surrounding serious medical conditions,
    like cancer. She has provided more than one thousand educational seminars,
    written articles and co-authored a book published by the American Bar
    Association called Cancer Rights Law: An Tool for Effective Navigation, as
    well as appeared on television and radio discussing healthcare related legal
    issues. Previously, Monica worked as Legislative Counsel for U.S. Congresswoman
    Linda T. Sanchez and Law Clerk for U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein.

    If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to follow the podcast and leave a review. Remember to check out our website at invisibleemployeeadvocates.com for more resources, and subscribe to our newsletter for updates! We’ll catch you in the next episode.


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    31 mins
  • Supporting Working Caregivers with Real Empathy
    Feb 23 2026

    In this powerful and heart-expanding conversation, we sit down with Claude Silver, Chief Heart Officer at VaynerMedia and author of Be Yourself at Work, to talk about empathy, emotional bravery, and what it really means to lead with heart. We explore how music, mindset, and self-awareness shape leadership—and why the “song in your head” matters more than you think.

    Most importantly, we dig into what this all means for working caregivers. How do you show up at work when life at home is heavy? How do you lead with compassion without lowering standards? And how can organizations create cultures where caregivers feel seen instead of invisible? Claude doesn’t offer clichés—she offers practical, human-centered leadership that can transform workplaces. Press play. This one will stay with you.

    Claude Silver is on a mission to revolutionize leadership, talent, and workplace culture. She is the world's first Chief Heart Officer at VaynerX and partners with CEO Gary Vaynerchuk to drive their success. Silver has earned Campaign US's Female Frontier Award and AdWeek's Changing the Game Award and she electrifies audiences at national and international conferences and at organizations, including Meta, Google, US Government agencies, and the US Armed Forces. She has been interviewed on dozens of podcasts and featured in The New York Times, Fast Company, Forbes, and The Wall Street Journal. He is the author of Be Yourself at Work: The Groundbreaking Power of Showing Up, Standing Out, and Leading from the Heart.

    Episode Highlights:

    [0:00] – Claude opens with a powerful message about sharing your caregiving reality at work and lightening the load.

    [2:00] – Zack and Selma welcome Claude and kick things off with music, authenticity, and The Cure.

    [6:05] – The “song in your head” story: mindset, self-talk, and a life-changing Outward Bound experience.

    [9:16] – What it really means to be yourself at work—especially for caregivers balancing home and career.

    [12:04] – Embracing the mess: why perfection isn’t real at work or at home.

    [16:15] – The Nana story: generosity, heart-led leadership, and the power of small human moments.

    [22:05] – Scaling empathy at VaynerMedia: culture champions, psychological safety, and employee support.

    [25:22] – Defining empathy: riding alongside someone without “wearing their shoes.”

    [31:18] – A powerful story about a struggling leader and the hidden caregiving crisis behind performance issues.

    [34:41] – How caregivers can share vulnerability at work without feeling like they’re making excuses.

    [40:43] – The critical role of HR today: psychological safety, belonging, and empathetic listening.

    [46:53] – Overcoming the “no budget” excuse: proving the ROI of support groups and ERGs.

    [49:32] – Emotional bravery, emotional efficiency, and emotional optimism explained for caregivers.

    [52:40] – Rapid fire: empathy, psychological safety, culture, and what caregivers need most from leaders.

    Links & Resources:

    Claude Silver – https://claudesilver.com

    Book: Be Yourself at Work by Claude Silver: https://www.claudesilver.com/book

    VaynerMedia – https://vaynermedia.com

    If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to follow the podcast and leave a review. Remember to check out our website at invisibleemployeeadvocates.com for more resources, and subscribe to our newsletter for updates! We’ll catch you in the next episode.

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    55 mins
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