UNLEASH founder and CEO Marc Coleman joins Amy and Meg for a conversation about what 5,000 HR leaders actually need right now — not in theory, in practice. From launching a disastrous first conference with tangled lanyards and no sleep to building one of the world's largest HR technology events, Marc shares how he reads market signals, why he shifted from benefit-led to decision-led content, and the L'Oréal "journey book” that changed how he thinks about the value of gathering. Plus: why companies winning with AI won't tell you how, the real tension between boards and HR, and Marc's Vegas wedding story. Leadership Corner: what happens when your promotion makes your peers not your peers anymore. ⏰ TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 "Repurposing humanity in the age of machines" 00:14 Introduction — what do 5,000 HR leaders actually need? 01:02 Building communities around big ideas 03:29 The UNLEASH origin story — Chelsea FC and sore heads 06:42 First event chaos: tangled lanyards and one hour of sleep 07:47 How to separate signal from noise as an insider 08:07 The politician effect — why HR leaders can't share secrets 11:26 "I leave the clothes of yesterday behind me" 13:42 "Everyone has the same data — the ones who win make different decisions" 14:37 The L'Oréal journey book — 100 HR leaders, 38 brands, one week of decisions 18:05 What does "good" look like for a conference speaker? 20:44 One sentence can change your career — and a Vegas wedding 22:35 The gap between what boards want and what HR delivers 23:23 Why the hardest part of transformation is always the people 25:12 Boards want capital efficiency. HR manages human complexity. 26:45 Doing your homework — Ethan Mollick and the jaw on the floor 29:17 Why companies succeeding with AI won't share how 31:05 2026 is the year — doing nothing is very costly 32:24 "The execution lives and dies in HR" 33:11 Areas of hope — SAP, Walmart, and pioneering CHROs 34:20 The power of in-person learning and serendipity 37:40 UNLEASH America — March 17–19, Caesars Forum, Las Vegas 39:01 Leadership Corner: Promoted past your peers — now what? 42:23 Build your org structure first, then map the people 46:01 "This is a new job — not a step function of your old one" 47:10 Wrap-up: What HR leaders should focus on in 2026 🔑 KEY INSIGHTS: - Everyone has the same data — the winners make different decisions, not luckier ones - L'Oréal sends 100 HR leaders to UNLEASH annually with a custom "journey book" mapping decisions to sessions — the future of how organizations extract value from learning - AI capability is outpacing organizational design — companies think it's about tools when it's actually about human beings - The "politician effect": companies succeeding with AI treat it as competitive advantage and won't share publicly - Boards optimize for capital efficiency while HR manages human complexity — the leaders who win translate between both worlds - The execution of AI transformation lives and dies in HR — it's not a side initiative, it's the competitive advantage - Workforce transformation is a team sport — you can't do it alone behind a closed door - After a promotion: soothe your heart, then build your org completely separate from the relationships in place- A promotion isn't a step function — it's a new job requiring fresh onboarding and relationship building 📚 RESOURCES: UNLEASH America 2026: March 17–19, Caesars Forum, Las Vegas https://www.unleash.ai/ Ethan Mollick: https://www.oneusefulthing.org/ Jess Von Bank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessvonbank/ Kirstin Ferguson Episode (Season 1): https://youtu.be/lceHtsbNAcs?si=rlOuV3HwrFk9r1lx 🔗 CONNECT: Marc Coleman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marccoleman/ Submit Leadership Questions: amywilsonadvisor@gmail.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/megandamyshow/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-meg-amy-show #Leadership #AITransformation #UNLEASH #FutureOfWork#HRLeadership #DecisionMaking #MegAndAmyShow
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